Cali Coast U!

Hi All,

I'm looking for graduates who had completed his/her Bachelors of Sciences in Business Administration at California Coast University. please email me at: [email protected]

Thanks!


Seiyu

 

I still don't understand why you want to waste your time and money. Experience is the best teacher. James Lyons learnt his lessons the hard way. Why do you want to go through the same ordeal? There are better schools with recognized accreditation.

 

Re: Re: Cali Coast U!

An easy and cheap degree is always too tempting. No matter how many arguments we post in this forum, you have people that believe can cheat the system, I must say that I’ve seen people in the work field with fake and unaccredited degrees making good salaries that could serve as a row model for some people. Why to invest 32000$ and 4 years when you can do it for 3000$ and two years and get the same result? What are the odds of someone checking your university and education?. The risk is there but for some is worth it to try.

 

You might have more luck in tolling for "graduates" over on the distancedegree.com site. More of the CalCoast and simialr crowd follow that site. Alt try the alt.education.distance newsgroup.

 

Re: Re: Cali Coast U!

Yes, i agrees that there are many Universities in US that are so much better than unaccredited University. But there are cost involved and also experiences when dealing with this practical world. Yes, one may needs a RA degree to get accepted by the public, but also there are cases that ppls goes for experiences even though a degree is a must for career advancement. An graduates with a RA degree will be great, but if one are poor that really can't afford a RA degree will definitely goes for a unccredited degree as long as the degrees are state approved and legitimate for used. (Not a degree mill or bogus degree) Hope you will understand why some ppls will rather go for unccredited degree rather than RA degree. Of course, there are ppls who has the ability and can afford to study for a RA degree, but yet chose to get an unccredited degree must be those who are lazy or whatever reasons they give.


Seiyu

 

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I think that the risk outweighs the benefit when you "Willfully" attempt to deceive your employer with the aforethought of using a bogus degree for employement/promotions. You don't list a location, but in California alone there are numerous schools that have proper accreditation (RA, DETC, Professional, et. al) that won't cost you an arm and a leg. A friend of mine took her 1st ever class (Jessi), after getting advice from this board and it only costed her $33 Bucks for 3 semester hours at a RA School via DL.

In your argument you really capitalize on the fact that there is an opportunity to get something for nothing...when in essence you are getting Nothing for Something and that nothing can add up to trouble when you start trying to use it illegally. Is it really worth being fired, humiliated, denigrated, and maybe even incarcerated over some B/S?

Mike
AA Burlington County College
BA TESC
MSAS SMSU
JD Chapman (In Progress)

 

Re: Re: Re: Cali Coast U!

This spurious reasoning is sited over and over as the main advantage of state approved degrees over RA. In the particular case you are using CalCoast the approximate cost of an undergraduate degree is $1500 to $2000, a similar degree from a California State University program is between $2000 and $3000 (primarily dependent on the rate at which you take courses). if the $500 to $1000 difference (spread over 2 to 3 years ($50/month)) is an economic hardship then going to school part time and spreading the cost over a longer period is the way to go.

Using the TESC, COSC, Excelsior model costs for a degree can be in the rangr of $1200 for undergraduate, at which case they are even cheaper, and take less time.

Going the community college route for the lower divison courses can even reduce these costs. And all of the options are available in a DL format.

So, CalCost, K-W, et.al are not lower cost, justs cheaper in value!

 

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Unaccredited schools are very successful within international students. In this forum we debate a lot between RA vs. State approved but the fact is that for a foreign student working in a country where the average salary is $10000 dlls a year, a state approved degree sounds very appealing. One may argue that if the budget is a problem, it is better to go for a South African degree, but in the business world the American degrees have a much higher marketing value than South African or even Australian degrees. The American accreditation system is very complex to understand and for the average person in the world a state approved is the equivalent of accredited since in most of the nations it works that way. So I agree that the unaccredited route may be valid for a foreign professional with a low budget looking for a credential to boost his marketing potential.

 

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I am sure that you would get a lot of suggestions for a good degree (and maybe associated grants) if you tell us what state you live in.

 

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One issue that may have been missed with unaccredited degrees is that if/when the school goes belly up then even if records were kept, they would be lost at that point. I'd guess that hundreds of unaccredited schools go out of business every year so this is not a small possibility.

 

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Possibly. While it is much more likely for accredited schools to transfer their records to another school (or other public or private agency), it is not exclusive. Beacon College folded and its records went into a drawer in San Diego. International College, on the other hand transferred its records (and some of its students) to the equally unaccredited William Lyon University (now also defunct.)

 

Seiyu is up to no good......

Just a small note on the person looking for CCU grads. He is up to no good, and eventhough his story is probably true, his intentions are still wrong. Here is the corrispondence he sent me;

From: Levis Dragus [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:26 PM
To: MBroderick
Subject: RE: CCU!


Hi Michael,

Really glads that you replied my mail. Currently i'm pursuing my BSc in Business Administration with CCU and due to my job loaded and jobs that required me to travel, i won't be able to concentrate on my studies. I knew that it's wrong for me to ask for your help, but i had no choice, hope you
understand and can help me.I knew that even though our concentration are different but i believes that you can help me, cause the only differences for Business Administration and
Management are the 4 majors, but the rest of the courses are the same.The reason why i choses CCU because it's a distance learning and cheaper and most important it's state approved as it's legitimate for used(not a degree mill or a bogus degree) comparing to those traditional Universities that are too costly that I can't afford. I came from a very poor family that i have
to work in order to support myself and my education. And now i really have no times to spares even to study due to the economic crisis in Asia, i have to work double hard in order to pay for my food, and school fees. But i really need a degree fast to get better job and a higher salary to support my family and house too. Hope that you can give me the answers of all the courses, and i'm willing to pay you for each course you gives me. what i can
do now is work, work and work, to save money for everythings, really have no times to studies. Really hope you can help me! and i willing to pay you US$30 to $50 for each course you gives me. Please! I'm mixed blood of Malaysian and Korean.
Thanks!

Seiyu

and my reply;

From: Broderick, Michael (SRC)
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 1:57 PM
To: 'Levis Dragus'
Cc: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: CCU!


Levis,

I'm very sorry I can not help you in this matter. It would be unethical and unfair if I gave you the answers of my study guides. I value the school, and the education it has to offer, and by giving you the answers it would defeat everything the school is about and only confirm what the critics have to say about it.
You see, I too have to work very hard to support my family, and I also have very little time for my studies, but I make the sacrifices, because I too wish to get better employment and a higher salary. One very important factor you need to keep in mind, is that if you try to finish and you go about things in this manner, you will learn nothing, and therefore you will not be able to perform in the workplace at the expected level one comes to consider from a person with such a degree. If you really wish to finish and get
something out of it, save your hard earned money and find the time to study on your own. you will appreciate it more. Besides, it is always better to spend your money on food for your family than trying to buy test answers.
Maybe you need to work on your English too. It will help a great deal with your studies. If you need guidance or help with anything in your studies, or you are stuck, I will be glad to help you there, but I can not, in good conscience, give or sell you the test answers. You need to earn your degree the old fashioned way, through hard work and dedication.

Michael Broderick

P.S. I am forwarding this correspondence to Ms. Maria B. Lewis,
Admissions Counselor at CCU so that it can be forwarded to the Dean of the School of Administration and Management and dealt with accordingly.

MB

People like this give a good school a bad name and fodder for the critics.

Semper......

Michael

 

Re: Seiyu is up to no good......

Oh boy... This type of stuff gives legitimate unaccredited schools a bad name, but to put the incident in context: this type of attempt at cheating happens at accredited schools all the time, too. Every time I see plagiarism and cheating, I am surprised and disappointed, expecting better...

Dave

 

Re: Re: Seiyu is up to no good......

Trying to get the answers for assignments and exams from previous semesters is a common thing in university students. This talks bad about CCU since it means that they don’t change their exams and assignments, every good DL university should have the policy to change at least the exams every semester. Some universities give previous exams to students as samples for preparation purposes. So in this case it is the university to blame rather than the student. You should expect that students communicate between themselves and exchange this kind of information. This gives us one more reason to stay away from unaccredited schools.

 

Re: Re: Re: Seiyu is up to no good......

Actually they do. In addition the University gives different versions of the exam, so it is possible the answers I have are different than the ones from his exams.

Michael

 

Re: Re: Re: Re: Seiyu is up to no good......

So I don't understand this fellow, he is willing to pay you $50 bucks for the answers for an exam that is different from his?, not a smart business guy if you ask me. I know of some web sites that provide ethical and honest help services to students for assignments and dissertations preparations. Perhaps this could help him more than a set of answers for a most likely different exam.

 

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Yea, I know. I guess he is willing to take the chance that the exams are the same. But then, how bright is a guy tryin' to dig up CCU grads to buy exam answers on a board that is, aghem, more to the right on the conservitive scale?
Go figure.

Michael

 

Check out the E-mail I got today.

Our friend Seiyu is back with a fist full of dollars. Here is the E mail I got today;

From: Levis Dragus [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 12:44 PM
To: MBroderick
Subject: RE: CCU!

Hi Michael,

I will pay you US$100 per course.



You have to admire his persistance.


Michael

 

Re: Check out the E-mail I got today.

I wonder if this individual is for real or just trying to give California Coast a bad name.

 

Wonder why the little fellow cites his ethnic background? Yu sei a red herring here somewhere?