BYU Independent Study Applies to DETC

Sorry, Tony. I meant from "Loma Linda" to "La Sierra."

Little ol' you is just fine, IHMO.

 

OK, Rich, I get it now (thanks to Ted & Rich for setting me stright). In a nutshell: the University was founded as a "normal" (teacher training) school called La Sierra Academy in 1922, became La Sierra College in 1939--accredited in 1946. It 1967 it was merged with Loma Linda University as its La Sierra (Riverside) Campus.

In the 90s it was determined that Loma Linda University would focus primarily on its medical and health-realted degree programs, so the College of Arts & Sciences, the School of Business, the School of Religion and the School of Education were all located onto the La Sierra Campus and the name was changed from Loma Linda University-La Sierra Campus to La Sierra University. It is fully accredited by WASC.

I began my doctoral study in the Ph.D. program in Educational Technology at Arizona State University, but a job transfer to California necessitated that I finish at a local university. La Sierra U. was the one that had the program that I was looking for (a hybrid of organizational leadership and educational technology).

Anyway, to answer your other question (Who would want to go to BYU?) Well, a bunch of national merit scholars (BYU consistently ranks in the top 20 of schools with freshman NMS), over 10,000 others who apply for admission each year and (least of all) me. Regarding Brigham's statements, yes, they run contrary to our 21st century sensibilities--but so do the statements of Protestant leaders of the same time period who used the same scriptural justification (curse of the descendants of Ham) to justify slavery (which Brigham never did). Many great institutions of higher learning were founded by these same Protestant denominations. I would also have no trouble attending George Washington U. or the Thomas Jefferson-founded University of Virginia.

Very best and happiest new year to you, my friend.

Tony

 

I've taken the majority of my CLEPs and DANTES exams at La Sierra U. Used to have a girlfriend who attended there.

Unfortunately, I seem to remember the renaming situation as much less harmonious than that. My fuzzy memory tells me there was significant friction between the then-Loma Linda Riverside campus and Loma Linda main campus, and that ultimately the result was they decided to split.

La Sierra is still highly regarded in the community, still a beautiful campus and (unfortunately) still a pricey school. I thought they still had pre-med programs-- I'll have to check sometime. It looks like they've sold a lot of campus land to housing developments in the area-- quite possibly due to majors shutting down or being sent over to LLU.

 

Speaking of BYU...

I have a couple friends who went to BYU, and they did pass down that their overall BYU experience was pretty horrid. One buddy of mine attended BYU on a full scholarship. He passed down that if you're a non-member, you're pretty much harassed about joining and your views are very limited. He did confirm that most women drop out after finding a husband. He also stated that some faculty were let go after voicing some views that didn't flow with the LSD idealogy.

 

Capt Kirk

I recall when Captain Kirk stated his first officer Spock got a little too much LDS in the 70's.

 

60's.

 

ha -- I meant LDS. I tried to edit but it was too late.

 

Attending school

It's all about what you put into it! I'm sure there are people that have a miserable experience attending some of the finest schools in America.

Ironically, this forum has demonstrated that there are those that have a great experience ordering the textbook and taking a challenge exam. Once again, it's all about what you put into it.

 

Right. Academic freedom there is not what you might find at some state school. At BYU, a professor may be fired for vocalizing/writing opinions about the church that are contrary to the current belief. Well, it is a religious school afterall.

BYU had a good sized Baptist Student Union when I was there. It's still there ( http://byusa.byu.edu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5326 ). Many of the non-LDS students wanted to go to a school where they would feel morally "at home". BYU offered that kind of atmosphere. Still, there is pressure to convert once you are there. I did know a few Catholics and one in particular was able to stand up well for himself. I do not believe he had many issues. He finished and moved on. He was very grateful for his BYU education.

I did know kids who were miserable there. They did not want to go to BYU but their parents made them for various reasons. They would have probably been more happy had they attended the University of Utah or another school. They hated the dress code, did not like the rules, and felt stifled. I liked the environment, though. It was an extremely friendly school and I prospered.

Many women do drop out after finding a husband. I think most of the BYU football team is married. They often need to work to support the new family after that. This is probably why the distance degree is popular among women now. Essentially, these women are the most likely ones to take advantage of the distance degree. My wife was a bit older than me so she was graduating close to the time I got back to the Y. She didn't drop out.

Bing

 

BYU High School

Well now we know the DETC accreditation was for the BYU independent study High School.