Ashworth College Masters Degree ????

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  1. philosophy

    philosophy New Member

    I would like to know your opinions and thoughts concerning Ashworth College. I received information from them with regard to the Masters degree. The enrollment application states that your tuition will be $4889. I have visited there website and it states that the Masters degree for both the Business Administration and Criminal Justice is suppose to be $3889.00 with a $500 dollar discount from the original price. This is also consequently provided in the enrollment application that I received from them but there is a difference of $1000. I have read from other posts that there have been some differences in prices to others as well. I guess my main focus is of how well received and respected would an Ashworth College Masters degree be? I also find it very interesting that they offer the Associates degree program. However, they have no Bachelors degree program of any sort. Has anyone enrolled in the Masters degree program at Ashworth College for either program? If so, what are your thoughts of the program? Is there a possibility that the Criminal Justice degree would be respected by law enforcement or in academic circles? I would appreciate any comments that you have on this subject. Thank you.
     
  2. Website states $3889 but

    The information sent was for $5889--$2000 more. I think I will pass.
     
  3. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

  4. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    Is too early to know, I guess if you want to enrolled, do it online if you get $3,889.00 price. The degree is national accredited. For acceptance you will need to contact your employer or prospective one. In this Forum have been discused the limitations of National accredited universities, but it all sum to current and futures needs.

    Hope this help!

    Vini
     
  5. philosophy

    philosophy New Member

    Question

    Has anyone every heard of a Masters in Criminal Justice? Ashworth College offers this degree which is accredited by the Distance Education and Training Council. I talked with a rep about the tuition discrepancy and she states that if you sign up on the Internet it is a different price.
     
  6. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Re: Question

    If you mean the specific degree title of Master of Criminal Justice, I know that at least one school (Tiffin University) offers it.

    If you mean any type of Master's degree in Criminal Justice, there are many, many options. I listed some in this thread.
     
  7. trishkeller

    trishkeller New Member

    Realize they are accredited by DETC, not regionally. Is this good enough?

    I looked at Ashworth and really like their business curriculum but they outright said they could not help me with any schools accepting their credits. My response was that if you offer a non-traditional curriculum you ought to! That's what first appealed to me about WGU. They show on their website the schools that accept their credits, and they're good ones.
     
  8. seekinghelp

    seekinghelp New Member

    I wouldn't be so quick to fault Ashworth for their position. They can't MAKE another school take their credits. I am coming to the conclusion (at the risk of having my ears boxed here) that the RA schools are more of a mind that they are so much better that they don't need to consider anything but their own. Right or wrong, don't know. My problem with Ashworth has to do with this pricing fiasco. They need to get their act together and price the damn program, period.
     
  9. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Lacking a transfer agreement of some sort, I don't think many schools will say who will or will not accept their credits.

    Many schools offer a list of those who have previously accepted their credits.

    An Ashworth MBA should probably be considered a terminal degree, for those who want some business training and the credential. If the aim is to get into a doctoral program, then there are better alternatives.
     
  10. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Hi Seekinghelp

    One thing that is helpful to realize is that to pretty much everyone, academic and otherwise, accredited means RA. Even most college officials aren't familiar with DETC. As you may know as of the late 70's DETC accredited TWO college level programs. Traditionally they accredited trade schools and correspondent courses like we use to see advertized in matchbooks and comic books. Heck, even today, there are probably less than a dozen or so serious schools DETC accredits along with a number of questionable schools like ACCIS and Andew Jackson University.

    I think Trish was pointing out that an upstart like Ashworth needs to show its value by working with other established schools. They could easily do so if they wished to. It seems she was trying to get a reasonable assurance that if she invested time and money in a degree from them that they would do so. Their rebuke is important for potential students. No they can't make any school take their credits, but they certainly should be willing to show the content and quality of their program to any school.

    For all the posts about price I see it as a minor issue. I would merely email them I was offered enrollment at 3889, and was ready to enroll. I doubt there would be an issue about price.

    A question I had was about there standards. I remember reading that there classes consist of reading a textbook and answering chapter quizes much like CCU. If this is the rigeror of the program I don't see much value in it.
     
  11. philosophy

    philosophy New Member

    Ashworth

    I have mixed feelings about registering for this program. I like the price that it is $3889.00. However, my problem is that they don't give you anytime to review the materials that they send to you, textbooks and learning materials to see whether or not you are interested in taking the program. In other words, it seems to me that they would give the student at least a few days to take a look at the program, and if you are not interested, then you could send it back. However, they state that they give you 5 days to decide, and this is during the time that the books and materials ship, so by the time you have received them, it is too late to decide, and you will be stuck with a $150 fee.

    I also wonder what kind of places would respecta degree from a place that is DETC accredited. It also seems kind of odd, that they go from an Associates to a Masters program, without having any Bachelors degree program. That to me is unheard of. Does anyone really think that such a Masters degree would be respected? What are your thoughts as well? Have a good one.
     
  12. trishkeller

    trishkeller New Member

    WGU does have agreements, as do many other schools. But, if I were a nontraditional school, I would be polling my graduates and talking to the schools that accepted them AND be trying to work out 2+2 type agreements. Many schools, including homeschools, will tell you which instituttions HAVE accepted their credits, but not making any guarantees. It at least gives you a starting point, and a warm fuzzy about their credibility in the academic world.
     
  13. Braden

    Braden New Member

    Ashworth College Tuition

    All,

    The problem with Ashworth seems to be 'addition'

    I realize the total tuition cost is stated differently, but they always state $99 a month for 38 months, plus $28 final payment.

    The math:

    $99 X 38 months = $3762 + $28 = $3790 + $99 initial payment = Total of $3889

    So, there is no difference in the final price, just a computer glitch, perhaps they have one of those old Pentium 60's :)

    Then again, maybe it is just a test for perspective students to examine their analytical skills!
     
  14. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    I have received some Ashworth literature in the mail and the $3889 price is the quote.

    John
     
  15. vnazaire

    vnazaire Member

    Ashworth college master degree

    Can somebody compare Aspen and Ashworth College ?
    Aren't all DETC colleges degrees equal ?
    If Western Governors or Aspen are accepted , why not Ashworth ?

    Ashworth keeps good professors as more than 90% of them are holders of an RA Ph.D. and their textbooks are comparable to RA colleges ones.

    According to their calendar , you do more than write book tests but also research, projects and two proctored comprehensive exams.

    I do not want to defend them but all the truth should be said .

    victor
     
  16. Karen MBA

    Karen MBA New Member

    Current Student Answers Somes Qs

    Hi Everyone. I am completing my first course in the MBA program.
    It's not a joke or all that simple.
    I have had great interaction with my instructor though her notes to me on assignments and a couple of phone calls.
    I was doing so well that I sort of eased back on one to see if I would score a good grade anyway, and I didn't.
    The software was great and the typed lectures are a wealth of info. I am going to petition the school to see if they will partner will Northcentral b/c the program seems very close to what I've read about WG.
    Anyway, the tuition thing was a marketing strategy from what I was told. They wante to wet the appetites of the market and then move up on costs. I think that may have back-fired.
    Anyway, I'll let y'all know how it's going...
    Sincerely,
    Karen
     
  17. Teresa K

    Teresa K New Member

    Online Masters Degrees and Certifications

    Has anyone completed online Masters Degree and Graduate Certificates? I am interested in Ashworth and would like some feedback from actual graduates. I haven't fould anything recent. Thanks you!
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I'm not an Ashworth grad -- but the school is well-known and a frequent thread-subject in all the fora. I checked their page today and I was at first amazed. I thought for a minute the cost of a Master's was less than even the 2004 prices shown at the start of this thread.

    DETC school. MBA $2,800 complete, if paid up-front? WHOOPS. That's per semester (x3) -- And where do they actually say that? I couldn't see. Your degree will cost about $9,000 total. You can do better for the same money or less. $9K will get you an RA MBA degree some (few) places.

    Quality? I have no idea or comment.

    Johann
     
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  19. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    I have a degree from Ashworth, and as I've said in the past; I think their model is great for Associate degrees, not so much for Bachelor's degrees, and just not a good option for grad degrees. I hear the model they use for their grad program is not entirely the same, but I remain skeptical about just how different it really is.

    I just feel a grad degree program should foster a higher level of school-to-student contact than what their typical model provides, and based on the number of students they have I don't know how that could work well.
     
  20. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    Do they have any stats as how many are enrolled or have graduated from their bachelors or masters? I will try to Google (is your friend) to see if I can find something.
     

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