Queen Margaret University College ?

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  1. John Spies

    John Spies Member

    Hello, any experience with this school? They seem to have a Hospitality MBA, 1 year in length, and less than $5K USD. I have emailed them to confirm all of this, but it looks perfect for me. If I gain any exemptions; the cost will probably go down!!
    thanks again.
     
  2. John Spies

    John Spies Member

    I searched further and have found an MBA in Golf and Country Club Management, however it is not listed as DL. It looks virtually the same as the Hospitality degree in structure, so maybe I can do this via DL. Sent an email to enquire.
    They state (and I think they are correct) that this program is the first of it's kind. If all goes well, this will be the program for me-it perfectly fits with what I need!
    Please, once again, any info re: Queen Margaret University College would be helpful.
     
  3. John Roberts

    John Roberts New Member

    John, where is this place and do you have the link to the program, especially the fees..was this DL and was the fee for foreign students?

    J.R(ic)
     
  4. John Spies

    John Spies Member

    John, here are the links:
    (I hope I do this correctly)

    www.qmced.ac.uk/distance/mba.htm
    www.qmced.ac.uk/registry/fees&charges.htm

    Fees for this program are listed on page 10 as follows:
    300 GBP per 15 credit module (8 needed)
    600 GBP for 60 credit dissertation
    My total is 3,000 GBP or $ 4665 USD

    This of course, depends on exemptions and the school's willingness to waive fees for credits gained as such. UniSA, for example, refuses to waive any fees for exemptions, so we will see. Also, I have now emailed someone re: the golf & country club program, hoping to complete it via dl. Once again, we will see!
    John, thanks so much for your continued help. After looking at about 10 programs, the choice could now actually be Middlesex or Queen Margaret. I hope to be thankful for the extra investigation!
    Thank you for your Middlesex lead-it could be it!
     
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  5. triggersoft

    triggersoft New Member

    I have a question, actually:

    how are those British "University Colleges" regarded?

    I must admit that I´ve never really taken a closer look at them when searching for an MBA program, just at the "real" universities and the former polytechnics...

    Greets,

    T.
     
  6. roy maybery

    roy maybery New Member

    Queen Margaret University College seems like a most respectable institution. You can access their history at the following site:
    http://www.qmuc.ac.uk/marketing/university/history.htm
    I looked them up on the ICDL site. They offer a wonderful array of distance ed opportunities including one called: Positive Percutaneous Endoscopic Gastronomy Care Certificate
    Roy Maybery
     
  7. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    I guess I would still give some preference to UniSA, since it has been established as a bonafide university much longer than QMUC has been established as a university college (1999). However, the QMUC site looks interesting, and the "royalty" name might well be more marketable. I think if I were a would-be customer or vacationer of the Sandals/Club Med sort, UniSA would carry more cachet, but if I were an old-fashioned elegance kind of customer, QMUC would sound better. Note that this is not a substantive comment on the programs, but just a hazard on how the names might play.

    Perhaps Prof. Kennedy would have some insight on QMUC, since it is also in Edinburgh???
     
  8. John Spies

    John Spies Member

    Help me out here. I am obviously naive when it comes to these things! What is the difference between ' university college' and plain ol' 'university'? I didn't realize there was a difference in stature.
    BTW, the reason I haven't already enrolled with UniSA is that the tuition is $11K USD. Other than that, the program is perfect for me, especially with the Cordon Bleu tie-in. If I could get it done for $7-8K, I would most certainly enroll. Still awaiting word from Oxford Brookes re: year 1 exemption, Sheffield-Hallam-same thing, Middlesex, and now QMUC.
    Please enlighten me re: the difference and their reputation overall. thanks
     
  9. John Spies

    John Spies Member

    Oh, and by the way; am I reading the fees page correctly? Can I really ght this MBA for less than $5K? Sorry to be so motivated by money, but with one child, another on the way, you know the drill.......
     
  10. roy maybery

    roy maybery New Member

    Queen Margaret University College was once 'as far as I can see' an 'Institute of Higher Education.' These were a sort of halfway house between a technical college and a polytechnic. Usually they were institutions on the way to becoming polytechnics. However' when Thatcher's government upgraded all the polys, to save administrative money and lay-off all the people that worked for their central applications office, many colleges of higher education were upgraded with them. For example the "Newport College of Higher Education (My home town) is now a college in the University of Wales.
    Which brings us to the use of the word 'college' in reference to higher ed in the UK. University Colleges are often units within a university. Oxford university for example is made up of more than 40 colleges. See:
    http://www.ox.ac.uk/colleges/
    Or they can be Colleges of Higher education which are degree issueing institutions.
    British degrees are fairly well regarded internationally, probably because of being accredited by Royal Charter which gives a very simple bench mark, being backed by the government. My first degree is from the UK. As a teacher in Ontario, Canada I get paid on the grid based on this degree, and it was acceptable for admission to my B.Ed at Brock University Ontario.
    Roy Maybery
     
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  11. Professor Kennedy

    Professor Kennedy New Member

    Queen Margaret University College

    Queen Margaret University College is a recently upgraded higer education college in Edinburgh. It is moving towards full Royal Charter status but it is not yet there. It has several degree award programmes, including an MBA, and it has long been associated with the hotel, catering and leisure industry. In the 60s, it was a School of Domestic Science.

    That it is specialising its MBA into this sector is a natural play on its strengths. A couple of years ago EBS was approached to allow some of its core MBA courses to be used by QMUC on its MBA programme and, of course, we agreed.

    It is a respected institution in Edinburgh and the UK and it has the potential to continue to develop (I notice it has acquired some additional buildings recently around Edinburgh, always a sign that it is meeting its performance targets, including academic ones). It is funded by the Scottish government.

    There are several 'university colleges' appearing in the UK (I was asked about one in Liverpool on this Board recently) and they are perfectly respectable, though everything should always be checked. These colleges have nothing at all in common with the collegiate universities in the UK - Oxford, Cambridge, London - and their Colleges, which are of great antiquity in the case of Oxbridge.
     
  12. John Roberts

    John Roberts New Member

    John S, I think QMUC, looks like a favorable choice. If you can get this and with only 5K to spend, completed in 1-2 years..go for it.

    Have you made your application yet or studied the program details?

    After all its an MBA (not from a Diploma Mill) and the Royalty name..wow.

    J.R(ic)
     
  13. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Took another look at the QMUC site. It really does look good, even though my awareness of the specialty fields is pretty limited.

    Can't help but like the name of the school--better than one of the Sassenach podge-royals!
     
  14. John Roberts

    John Roberts New Member

    The course work and limited specialty MBA degrees available at QMUC, although limited, sure beats that other Scots university..HW, I think it was?

    The price, number of courses required and as John Spies mentioned that he may get some credit for work already done..well well well. this looks like the fastest and cheapest MBA yet and we no GMAT entrance required?

    Maybe Jarin on the other thread posting should look at the MBA in e-commerce at QMCU?

    J.R(ic)
     
  15. triggersoft

    triggersoft New Member

    The total for the whole QMCU MBA program is more as follows:

    GB and EU citizens: 3,000 GB Pounds (=4,675 US$)
    Non-EU citizens: 6,750 GB Pounds (=10,517 US$)

    The non-EU tuition makes the whole thing a lot more uninteresting for our US members, doesn´t it?

    greets,
    trigger
     
  16. John Roberts

    John Roberts New Member

    Triggersoft, there you go, John Spies didn't read the small print, it looks like double the price that he thought he was going to pay.

    QMCU, back in the trash bin. John S will have to contend with OB, Sheffield or Middlesex.

    J.R(ic)
     
  17. Gary Rients

    Gary Rients New Member

    Their fees document (from the link posted above) lists the distance learning MBA with much lower fees (no separate rates for "home" vs. "international" for the DL program fees). It's listed as (8 courses x 300) + (dissertation x 600) = 3000 GB Pounds. Were you maybe looking at the rates for residential (non-DL) students, or am I reading the document incorrectly?
     
  18. roy maybery

    roy maybery New Member

    An interesting point about fees if anyone is interested in doing an common-garden MA. Sheffield Hallam University has no overseas rate for its MA Imperialism and Culture. It comes out to about $5,000 CDN- probably about $3,000 US.
    Roy Maybery
     
  19. John Roberts

    John Roberts New Member

    Roy, the best and cheapest Masters yet. But Imperialism from a Brit standpoint is a bit much. This program should be called the 'Fall of Imperialism' with culture as the option subject (British that is).

    What purpose do you think this MA would serve and what would someone do with it, that is unless they wanted it strictly for the graduate degree or some history add-on..who knows, but it is a very cheap Masters.

    J.R(ic)
     
  20. Jonathan Liu

    Jonathan Liu Member

    Which Queen Margaret ?

    Does anybody know which Queen Margaret that QMUC is named after? Is she the infant Queen Margaret of Scotland (AD 1282-1290)?
     

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