Masters in Pastoral Counseling

Discussion in 'Nursing and medical-related degrees' started by philosophicalme, Nov 19, 2007.

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  1. philosophicalme

    philosophicalme New Member

    Does anyone know of any mostly DL Master's in Pastoral Counseling or Master's in Religion/Spirituality? I have thought long and hard and I think I would enjoy serving as a Hospital Chaplain.

    Thanks! :D

    Rhonda
     
  2. makana793

    makana793 New Member

    You might want to check out Liberty University. They have programs in religion, human services, counseling, pastoral counseling, etc. They may have something your looking for.
     
  3. dlady

    dlady Active Member

  4. cbryant

    cbryant New Member

    philosophicalme,

    Check out http://www.bakersguide.com. Site has links to DL programs both in the USA and Commonweath countries (UK, AU, ZA).

    HTH,

    cbryant
     
  5. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

  6. cklapka

    cklapka Member


    Since their credits are accepted at Lipscomb University(a US News top 25 Masters-University ), I doubt they are a mill. While unaccredited, they do not pretend accreditation(as a mill would) and, I have read that they are quite rigorous academically.
     
  7. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    Hi Steve:

    Seems to me you jumped the gun on this, which is alarming. I suspect you don’t know anything about the school.

    DEL
     
  8. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Regions University (the school formerly known as Southern Christian University) www.regions.edu offers both an MS in Pastoral Counseling and an MDiv in Pastoral Counseling.
     
  9. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Liberty University www.liberty.edu offers an MA in Pastoral Counseling through its Seminary division and a PhD in Pastoral Counseling through its School of Psychology. (They also offer the MA and PhD in Professional Counseling.)
     
  10. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    David, I suspect that, like Ted did correctly, you may have intended to cite Regions University (the old Southern Christian), which is an outstanding school.

    But you cited Nations University. Be a good boy and open the web cite you provided above - yes, it is quite clearly a mill - no bout adoubt it {sic]. No contact information whatsoever, no address, no phone, yet purporting to offer degrees through the master's level.

    This "school" is a sham. Period.

    David, I've never known you to puff a mill, and am giving you the benefit of doubt here. But if you did intend to puff Nations University at the wqeb site you provided, you are either naive or a mill shill. And remember, I'm always right. About everything. But I'm not perfect. Merely practically perfect in every way. Just like Mary Poppins. :D
     
  11. cklapka

    cklapka Member

    Although the website is horrible it does provide the necessary contact information you just need to dig:
    http://www.nationsu.org/control_centers

    Also, the degree is $100 a year to attend classes. I assume if someone really want the find out if it were a mill or not, they could register and see if any actual work is required at a minimum cost.
     
  12. dlady

    dlady Active Member


    I would never puff a mill, so I must be naive or confused. My memory is that this is a legit group with a cool free program. If I’ve bungled it sorry (but I don’t think I have).

    Oh, and if you call me ‘boy’ again.., well, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one this time as I probably am just reading your intentions wrong in how it comes across..

    Since I am clearly confused here, do you have any evidence to support that they are a mill? My inquiry is legitimate because I’ve always thought at some point I would explore this program...
     
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  13. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    A free master's degree program. Yep, to buy into that is naive.

    Why, are you black? To tell you the truth, I have no idea what your race is (and, having taught African-American studies and feeling no need to prove my liberal credentials) I don't particularly care. "Be a good boy" is generic and was obviously not used in a racial context. (I usually use it based on age or naiveté.) So if you are black, j'accuse you of playing the race card - and having been impressed with some of your posts in the past, I would think that you're too good to have to resort to that.

    Now that's a good question. I've basically shut down my old web site - http://levicoff.tripod.com - because much of it was obsolete. The one thing I've left up there is the NIFI Criteria, a comprehensive list of ways you can identify a degree mill. Check it out - Nations fits the bill on a multitude of the criteria.

    So, m'boy (spoken with an Irish brogue), don't be so damn defensive. And in a short while, as you progress, I look forward to addressing you as a fellow doctor.
     
  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Wait a second, I've heard that Harrison Middleton was considering a Doctor of Arts program, but their doesn't even list is yet. How can you be in process?

    -=Steve=-
     
  15. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    I had just signed up for the Ed.D. program (not getting what I wanted out of the APUS Political Science program, not because it was bad but maybe because in all honesty it was to structured for my schedule) and had just received the material for the first class, when they sent an email out to all their students saying that the state had just approved their D.A. submittal, with a copy of the approval certificate. I asked them for an outline of the program, as given what I knew about a D.A. seemed to maybe be a better fit for my goals. Sure enough, much more flexibility around the topics pursued in the D.A., so I switched to it pre marketing material and formal announcement..

    If you have the time and a little spare coin, and want a purely intellectual pursuit (don’t even begin to pretend there is much market value here), then this is the place / program to pursue.
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Cool! Do you have a sense of when they make information about it be publicly available?

    I don't remember hearing anything bad about them, and relatively speaking they're very inexpensive.

    -=Steve=-
     
  17. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    If you send them an e-mail or call them (contact info on their website) I suspect they will send you the info. This is basically what I did. What is interesting when you talk to them is that because they do so much work on the phone, this is probably the most polished and social group of academics you will come across (at least it is for me). I didn’t ask them about when the info was going to be public (and hope I have not oversteps some bound here).
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    You're safe; it's in their catalog. ;)

    The thing that gets me is that they call it a Doctor of Arts, but the program isn't really structured like a Doctor of Arts program should be. But then since they're DETC and can't offer PhD programs, I suppose they only have so many nomenclature options.

    -=Steve=-
     
  19. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    Even so, to your point given that they really can’t embrace the PhD, the DA seems to be the next best ‘generic’ nomenclature…. besides, a completely customized exploration of any combination of the ‘great ideas’ to fit your personal taste, with real human interaction and discussions? Way to cool to pass up…
     
  20. skidadl

    skidadl Member

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