William Loveland College

How much was WLC charging for their MBA?

 

Under $5,000, and if you paid the entire tuition upfront, it was under $4,000. It was exceptional because it wasn't just an MBA, it incorporated ILM into the program, so the emphasis was on supply chain and logistics. I looked up UofP, Patten, New Concepts, etc, and they don't offer the same program. But it doesn't seem like I have a choice right now, so I'll be shopping for another inexpensive grad school. Dr. Lady, if you are reading this post, pleeeeeease respond to me and let me know if WLC will reopen soon under a different accreditation.

 

David Lady has left the building.. No, wait, that was Elvis.

David Lady has flown the coop.

SweetiePie, just for the halibut, look up the “Global Logistics Specialist” program at California State University Long Beach, a certificate program. I took one course from them and thought it was bullshit (as I think William Loveland College is bullshit), but you might find it interesting. It’s fully online, and it is Cal State. They are the only folks offering the GLS designation, and it’s become popular since one of the largest U.S. seaports is in Long Beach.

And forget about Loveland. They have lost any credibility they may have had, and it is unlikely that that they will be back in operation in any form.
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Plainly speaking, WLC is, in all likelihood, not reopening any time soon.

 

What that means is that he doesn't want to be contacted. Best leave it alone.

 

Quite true. When last seen, he was running away with his tail between his legs and his head up his ass.

But for those who are nostalgic and want to see him, you can watch his diatribes against DEAC at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai8HqQ2Mq4o and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KngYwSIAgNE. At least until he remember the videos are out there and removes them.
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I agree. David Lady knows where to contact me if he wants to. In the meantime, I wish him well.

 

Hello Johann,

Why do you say UofP is a very good choice? Did you or someone you know graduate from that university?

 

(1) Because it was founded by Shai Reshef - a person who knows what he's doing in the field of distance education. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shai_Reshef
(2) Because it is tuition-free. End-of-course assessment fee only. Your MBA will cost you about $2400 complete!
(3) Because it is accredited by DETC -and judging by the track record, I don't think that accreditation is likely to be in jeopardy -ever.

J.

 

Oops! I meant DEAC of course - not the old name it was known by for many years.

 

In the mid-90s I had a number of managers at the company I worked who completed MBA degrees at UoP.

They all have good careers. Climbed the ranks.
I keep in touch with two of them.
One is about to retire, he is a Program manager at FedEx in Colorado.
The other is a National manager with the company in the Imaging business.
He had his Bsc from TESC now TWSU and MBA from UoP.

 

I'm guessing that you two guys are talking about two different UofPs. University of the People v. University of Phoenix.

 

Yes. I was answering Sweetie Pie's question about University of the People, usually abbreviated UOTP in these pages.
Lerner is obviously talking about U. of Phoenix in the 1990s. University of the People was not founded until 2009.

When U of Phoenix (or any school other than UOTP) can deliver an MBA for $2,400 complete - we'll talk. As long as it's not hyper-crammed into 12 weeks or otherwise unattainable by mortals. There are a couple of those.

J.

 

There are very few that are that cheap. But, I still think it's better to attend the older, regionally accredited schools. I don't know how stable Patten is, but they're regionally accredited and cost $1996 per 4-month term. Since they're self-paced, it's reasonable to expect to finish in two or three terms. WGU, Davenport, Walden, and Capella are a little more expensive, but they're also regionally accredited and have affordable, competency-based programs.

 

Isn't DEAC the same accrediting agency the David Lady is currently suing for fraud?

 

Can someone answer this question for me please: ILM, the Institute of Logistics Management, has also been shut down, along with WLC. ILM offered a certificate in logistics, but it was not an accredited institution. So why was it shut down? The DEAC's ruling on WLC didn't affect ILM. Please enlighten me if you can.

 

I can give you an answer but I can't promise that it's the answer. The ILM, WLC or any university is, on one level, a business. It must have customers. In this case we're talking about students. It must have a lot of them. You have to make your payroll or your staff will walk. You have to pay your bills or your suppliers stop making deliveries. I suspect that you can connect these dots.

 

Yes, although it's not quite as simple as a fraud lawsuit.

Nonetheless, I think that David Lady's chance of winning his suit amount to the same thing as a snowball's proverbial chance in the proverbial lake of fire and brimstone.
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