William Loveland College

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by dlady, Jul 31, 2014.

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    You are a good man Dr. Lady. I still remember when your brother passed away. You pushed on and went on to create an addiction counseling program at Aspen. Then you got the nursing program CCNE accreditation. I believe Aspen was the first school to be NA and accredited by the likes of CCNE. That's what I call forward thinking. Then you paid for scholarships out of your own pocket for kids under the AIMS thing.

    You have filed this suit for good reason, and you are not the type to file a suit for for the heck of it, or for monetary gain. I have known you to be a man of honor, and your intentions are always for the greater good.

    Stay strong. I am and always be proud to call you my friend. You are doing the right thing here. Right is right, and wrong is wrong. That is constant that will never change. Stand be your convictions and never change. I try to aim high when it comes to friends, and I am a mere mental dwarf in the presence of mental giants like you. And that is damn good, because I learn a lot and watch carefully. :)
     
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  2. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Oh damn, I don't think I am supposed to the the un-pc term of dwarf anymore. My bad. :smile:

    But you get the point anyways. He he Like Steve L, I love humor! :)
     
  3. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    @heirophant I think that's a very fair assessment. I once enrolled in a program that was well-regarded and yet had a terrible time there, so bad that I still can't believe it actually happened.

    It's definitely a YMMV situation.
     
  4. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I agree with that. In fact, I'm not sure I know of an effective way to teach skills-based subjects, like math, online. Especially in typical asynchronous environment. These classes are great to students who can teach themselves, essentially who are already good at the skill. It's harder to help the ones who struggle; much easier if face-to-face.
     
  5. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Precisely.
     
  6. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Let me add to this. I once took to a DL class from the uni of Nebraska in mathematics. The teacher would only chastise me and mark up my paper full of red marks, rather than help me understand why i was messing up. I then ended up taking the math course at a B&M, and the teacher helped me one one in person, much better. Sorry folks, that is my honest opinion. DL is only good up to a certain point. It has taken me me over ten years to come to this realization.
     
  7. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    In that instance though, it sounds like you just had a bad Professor. I had a similar issue with an English Professor who kept moving the goal line in an effort to hold on to her--in her mind--coveted 'A'. When issues were found in her class material, she chose to BS out an explanation instead of just accepting that she was wrong and needing to make corrections. She was dreadful. That was online. I can also tell you about similar and even worse situations that happened at a B&M.

    In another different situation years prior, I had an English Professor online that did the exact opposite. She took the time to explain what was wrong, and even made grade adjustments where necessary.

    YMMV.
     
  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Recorded lectures can be rewatched. I can repeat a portion of a lecture.
    Many professors have time allocated for questions can be Skype or another colaboraton tool. Technology is there.
     
  9. SweetiePie

    SweetiePie New Member

    Hi Tlon,

    I have experience in applying and being accepted, if that helps you at all. I applied to WLC in 2014 and was accepted to the MBA program. I intended to start right away but because of personal and financial reasons (my elderly parents became sick and needed my care and hubby lost his job), I had to delay starting classes. My situation has now changed and I intended to start again. Obviously that won't happen until WLC and ILM reopen, which I hope will be soon. David Lady and Danielle Lange were very nice to me during the application process. They both responded to my emails immediately and politely. The little experience I have is that they wanted my undergrad transcripts (like all colleges), a 300 word essay describing my educational goals and a copy of my resume to prove at least 3 years of relevant work/business experience. I contacted some colleges and universities in my state and asked if they accepted WLC's credits in transfer to their MBA program, which they did. So WLC seems like a good school. I work in logistics and their MBA program emphasizes supply chain and logistics. I really hope somehow this college can be salvaged. I still want to attend. I hope this information has helped you.
     
  10. SweetiePie

    SweetiePie New Member


    Hi Tlon,

    I have experience in applying and being accepted, if that helps you at all. I applied to WLC in 2014 and was accepted to the MBA program. I intended to start right away but because of personal and financial reasons (my elderly parents became sick and needed my care and hubby lost his job), I had to delay starting classes. My situation has now changed and I intended to start again. Obviously that won't happen until WLC and ILM reopen, which I hope will be soon. David Lady and Danielle Lange were very nice to me during the application process. They both responded to my emails immediately and politely. The little experience I have is that they wanted my undergrad transcripts (like all colleges), a 300 word essay describing my educational goals and a copy of my resume to prove at least 3 years of relevant work/business experience. I contacted some colleges and universities in my state and asked if they accepted WLC's credits in transfer to their MBA program, which they did. So WLC seems like a good school. I work in logistics and their MBA program emphasizes supply chain and logistics. I really hope somehow this college can be salvaged. I still want to attend. I hope this information has helped you.[/QUOTE]
     
  11. SweetiePie

    SweetiePie New Member

    Also, I was told there would be no group projects at WLC, which made me happy. I always hated group projects. One student does all the work (which was usually me) and everyone else gets the credit.
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I'm pretty sure there won't be any group projects.
     
  13. SweetiePie

    SweetiePie New Member

    I agree. I was told that by the staff of WLC. Also, there was no GMAT and no fee to apply. My kind of school !!!

    It was an MBA with an emphasis on supply chain and logistics management at an incredibly affordable price. Just what I was looking for. I really, really hope WLC will reopen in the near future.

    I have a question: Why can't ILM open? Since its courses are for certification only and not college credit, it doesn't have to be accredited. So the problem with DEAC doesn't apply to ILM. If someone can answer this question for me, please respond.
     
  14. SweetiePie

    SweetiePie New Member

    Hello,

    Does anyone know where I can get in touch with Dr. David Lady? He doesn't seem to be on this site anymore.
     
  15. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    SweetiePie, If you're really looking for an inexpensive MBA (not specifically Supply Chain), there are other options.
    Patten University has 7 different concentrations and they are Regionally Accredited vs Nationally Accredited.
    WGU which is RA also has an MBA that can be completed in 6 months or just one term for roughly $3250-$3500.

    If you want to continue with a Nationally Accredited program, there are a few as well.
    UofPeople, MBA at $2460 (total cost of 11 exams and application/misc fee)
    New Charter University at $1499/3 months, or if you're taking 2 terms, it'll be $2998 flat!
     
  16. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Well honey, it seems that you're not quite done beating that dead horse. So here's what you can do. David Lady has about 1,000 posts on this board. I believe that somewhere in there he dropped an email address. If you sprint through all those posts you might find it, and it might actually still work. You could probably get it done in one night. Or, you could just google the Hell out his name and see what pops up.
     
  17. SweetiePie

    SweetiePie New Member

     
  18. SweetiePie

    SweetiePie New Member

    LOL, you have a great sense of humor Kizmet! I have actually done those 2 things you suggested, without success. Looks like I better get applying to a different grad school.
     
  19. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    There are more stable schools to apply to anyway. There are probably several hundred online MBA programs out there.
     
  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Indeed there are. Some folks say maybe they need to "thin the herd." VERY few, however, in William Loveland's price range. AsianStew mentioned U. of the People (a very good choice, sez me) and a couple of others.

    J.
     

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