Why the snobbery?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by DegreeDazed, Apr 14, 2010.

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  1. jek2839

    jek2839 New Member

    Yes, We love to run early in the morning and love our shacks. :) (-:
     
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  2. StevenKing

    StevenKing Active Member

    Jek2839 - I hope you realize I am laughing with you. I was Army all the way... 10.5 years!
     
  3. jek2839

    jek2839 New Member

    Yes, I knew you were joking and the DI system did not show my edited comments. Oops.....
     
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  4. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    BAM!!!! Truth.

    End of thread.
     
  5. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    I had never thought about it that way, but you are absolutely right. Academics are probably the most aristocratically minded people there are. And I have to admit that most of us get a degree to become "better than...". Not me of course, I am amazingly humble. :)
     
  6. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator


    Not me...I am "better then"...just not sure who I am better then...;)
     
  7. DegreeDazed

    DegreeDazed Member

    Ouch! Bleeding...bleeding...ugh. You have got to admit that some people are nice about the differences and some people are downright snobs. I don't think you can argue that point. I know there is a difference but there is no reason for a few people to be snobs. I hope that view does not actually make me pitiful and sloppy. Unless maybe you fall into that snob group?
     
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  8. lawrenceq

    lawrenceq Member

    Go Navy! Those other branches can't compare.
     
  9. DegreeDazed

    DegreeDazed Member

    Rich, did you think I was aiming my snobbery question at your views on DETC schools? That was not my intent. If it appeared that way, I apologize. I was mostly interested in the fact that many from B&M schools do exhibit a snobbish attitude toward DL institutions. But somehow we DL advocates do it to each other to some extent.
     
  10. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Go civilians!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I am proud to say that after I said GO ARMY!! for nine years! :cool:
     
  12. Tim D

    Tim D Member

    No what Rich was stating, was the utility of all DL degrees are not the same. IT would be fooling ourselves to say that they are. For example, if I graduated from Northcentral University with a PhD in Clinical Psychology it would not be nearly as useful in many cases as a degree from Fielding. We can take this further, an MBA degree from Duke's Faqua school of Business is going to be more useful than one from Amberton but an Amberton MBA is more likely to have more use than one from Colombia Southern University.
    None of this is "snobbery", just how it is. Arguing they are all the same is just fooling ourselves.
    This is no different from what happens in life after academia! Certain schools are looked differently than others. A graduate of Harvard will have more opportunities than the kid who graduates from Worcester State College, It's just the way it is.
     
  13. DegreeDazed

    DegreeDazed Member

    I agree with everything you are saying. Not all schools are created equal and some are more prestigious than others and that's not what I'm asking about. I am not criticizing anyone for recognizing that schools are different and I did not intend to call anyone a snob. You have to admit, however, that there are many who are snobbish about that superiority of certain schools and that is what I was referring to. I would say that the snobs are a minority, but they do exist. It's largely B&M people directing it toward DL people but it also exists between DL people and that's what is interesting. Surely you and he recognize that there are some snobs mixed in the the nice people?
     
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  14. DegreeDazed

    DegreeDazed Member

    I noticed this when I was asking about NCU. Most people were nice and honest, but there were some posts from NCU detractors that I would consider snobbish. I don't go to NCU, at least not yet, so I'm not trying to defend it. It is what it is. I just find the snobbery between various DL school supporters interesting.
     
  15. makana793

    makana793 New Member

    On a side note perhaps the type of employment one is seeking plays a part in the prestige factor of the degree. For example, I would assume that a MBA from UCLA would play a big part in getting a job on Wall Street as opposed to a person with a MBA from AMU who is seeking employment with DoD or DHS.
     
  16. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Real colleges have football teams!!!

    A coworker said, "Does your college have a football team? If it doesn't, then it's not a real college!!! :eek:

    He doesn't believe that it's possible to gain esteem, knowledge or an education by graduating from a DL college or universities. They are all akin to buying a college degree from the backside of a bubblegum wrapper. :eek:

    Conversely, his peers are "passing him up" with DL degrees e.g. they have RA [DL] Masters level degrees, but he only has a B&M Bachelors degree, albeit his Alma Mater has a football team. ;)
     
  17. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Well, I have to concur on this one because that IS rather snobbish. (Unless he was just yanking your chain) Very interesting that he is being passed up by DL people. I'm loving that! Thanks for sharing that great post, me again.
     
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  18. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Well, I had so many clever/pointed things to say in response to this and couldn't quite pick one, so each may choose their favorite:

    I guess that means that Harvard wasn't a real college until after 238 years of existence.

    It is comically obvious that your friend has never taken even a single online class.

    Well, at least your friend isn't an accreditor, employer, admissions officer, nor anyone else whose opinion actually matters.

    How many classes did your friend take that were taught by the quarterback?

    Collegiate distance education (1858) predates collegiate football (1869). Tell your friend "Does your football team play games through correspondence? If it doesn't, then it's not a real football team!"

    Well, then, simply print out a list of DL degrees that your friend's school offers and hand it to him. This would be even better if his major could be found online- ask him if he thinks that his B&M degree is superior to one in the same major via DL. Then, hand it to him and ask him why his own school disagrees with him.
     
  19. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Wow, good comebacks! I'm glad you are on our side!
     
  20. major56

    major56 Active Member

    Bill Dayson soundly abstracted a response to your original inquiry, e.g., “I've always found it ironic how the academic world loves to play socialist and pose as the champion of the common man, while in reality they are perhaps the most class conscious people on earth. Academics are right up there with faded European aristocracy in their obsession with the relative rankings of their obscure 'titles'.”

    Surely one could as well employ the noun ‘snobbery’ as an observable and contributing characteristic of the abovementioned hypocritical behavior/s. I wouldn’t consider such depiction to be either ‘pitiful’ or sloppy. Perhaps a more accurate adjective might be ... ‘observant’. ;)
     

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