urgent help needed pls

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  1. pearlashie

    pearlashie New Member

    hi everyone, i am currently writing my dissertation and on chapter 3 methodology,
    i have already administered the questionnaires but my problem is that my supervisor wants me to change a few things so* CAN QUESTIONNAIRES BE CHANGED AFTER it has been adminstered?
     
  2. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I would say no. The DP was approved and the questions should not be changed without having the DP re-approved and the process of surveying starting over. That is my opinion - I could be wrong.
     
  3. pearlashie

    pearlashie New Member

    the supervisor hadnt approved the questions before i administered it.she has now seen the questionnaoies and wants me to do some changes before she approves but i had already administered it so dont know what to do i need help badly pls
     
  4. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    How could you have administered the survey without the chairs approval? Sounds like you jumped the gun and the results you collected could not be used in your research. When I got my PhD we could not survey anyone until we obtained IRB sign off.
     
  5. pearlashie

    pearlashie New Member

    i was getting close to the deadline.... i admit i jumped the gun so should i just do the changes she asked and re administer the questions again?
     
  6. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Yes, otherwise I would assume it would not be approved. The results you collected so far have no value (for this research) so I will put them to the side for now.
     
  7. pearlashie

    pearlashie New Member

    thank you very much she asked me to repharse the questions so i will do that and give it to her for it to be approved and re administer it..... is that the way forward? sorry am bein a bit thick but am really worried since am getin to the deadline. she hasnt replied back after i told her i had already adminstered it? am just wondering what she might say
     
  8. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Always ask before doing - that is the rule. I am not sure what she will say but I am sure you will find out. Best of luck to you.
     
  9. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    I hope that your chair has reported your actions to your graduate school dean or similar official. Administering a survey instrument before IRB approval is a serious breach of ethics. I'm not going to sugarcoat this, you have placed your doctoral journey in jeopardy, and rightfully so.

    The purpose of the IRB review is to ensure among other things, that your research minimizes the chance of potentially harming someone. For instance, since I was interviewing veterans for my dissertation, the IRB demanded that I have contact numbers for veterans organizations to give to my participants. In addition, my IRB asked for verification from my commanding officer that as a NCO, I had completed training in how to handle situations during counseling (which I did during my NCO education). These are things that I didn't think of when designing my interview guide.

    I suspect that your doctoral journey is about to come to an end.

    Shawn
     
  10. pearlashie

    pearlashie New Member

    does this apply to masters level
     
  11. pearlashie

    pearlashie New Member

    does this apply to masters level?
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Yes, administer to different subjects.
     
  13. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    Does your school require IRB approval before initiating research? (BTW - I think you know the answer).

    Here is a link from San Jose State University about IRB and completing a Master's Thesis:

    www.sjsu.edu/gradstudies/docs/thesis_workshop.ppt
     
  14. pearlashie

    pearlashie New Member

    my was ehical aproval form which was approved.
     
  15. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    So how does an IRB approve research on human subjects with an survey instrument that has not been approved by the chair?
     
  16. pearlashie

    pearlashie New Member

    what are you on about? my ethical aproval form was approved am on my methodology buti sent the questions before sending it to the supervisor and she has asked me to rephrase the same questions
     
  17. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    Are you willing to disclose what school you are earning your masters from?

    Because I am having a hard time believing that an IRB would approve a research project unless they had a chance to review the questions.

    That being said, (and assuming you had IRB approval), you disregarded the research process by releasing your survey before your chair and thesis committee had a chance to approve your questions. Not good.

    I'm not going to post anymore on the subject, but based on your postings, I believe that your graduate studies may be ending.
     
  18. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    It seems out of sequence that the chair would see the questions after IRB. What if the chair changes the questions (like your case)? Will another IRB be required? I would hope so. This just seems disjointed.
     
  19. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    Randell,

    Yea, I'm having a hard time believing the OP - no IRB is going to approve a study until the instrument is finalized. For instance, from Capella's IRB process:



    Researchers generally rely on instruments to collect their research data. An instrument may include an inventory or scale, survey, interview script or observation checklist. If your study involves the use of an instrument, you must provide the following documents as part of your IRB package:

    • A copy of the instrument(s).

    • A letter granting permission for you to use the instrument. A permission letter is required for the use of existing instruments and must come from instrument authors or publishers. Permission must be specifically obtained to modify the instrument. If you are purchasing the instrument for use in your study, a purchase agreement may replace the permission letter.

    • Results of any expert review, information at https://campus.capella.edu/web/research-at-capella/review/expert-review, to check the credibility and safety of the instrument. The results of expert review should be reported in Supplemental Form B-Field Test Results.

    • Requests for pilot study approval. Plans to pilot a newly created quantitative instrument to test its reliability and validity should be outlined in Supplemental Form M-Pilot Study Request.



    In any case, it appears the OP skipped steps in the process in order to "meet a deadline." I can't imagine a graduate school looking kindly upon that...
     
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  20. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    These guys know more about this stuff than me but a few things seem clear. You asked a question and it has been answered. You don't like the answer, I'm sorry. Typically, the best course of action at times like this is to simply take your lumps and move on. Best of luck.
     

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