Tulane Certificates

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by RobbCD, Mar 6, 2005.

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  1. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    I have just completed the coursework (such as it is) for the Tulane Master Certificate in Business Management. At the risk of offending my fellow members, I liked it.

    For what it is, CEU's and not accademic credit, it was well worth the effort. For the price, well... I could have gotten an Ashworth MBA, but I don't think it would have served me as well.
     
  2. kelly88

    kelly88 New Member

    Congratulations on completing your studies.

    I have a question, how much did your studies cost and over what time duration?

    To what extent was the percentage of transferable credits for previously completed coursework(from accredited universities), would have been acceptable(15% ,30%)?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  3. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    How so? Are you saying (and I'm not challenging you or itching or a fight or anything... I'm just askin') that DETC accreditation is so comparatively sub-standard that a non-credit, masters-level CEU certificate from a regionally-accredited institution looks better on a resume than a full-fledged MBA from a DETC-accredited institution? Or is your assessment more with regard to transferability of credits? Or... you know... on what do you base this statement? Just tryin' to understand.
     
  4. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    My reasoning is that not only would the Ashworth degree taken me much more time, which I don't have, but the name recognition of the school is so low, it helps me more to have someone recognizable on my resume. What's more, I live just south of New Haven and commute to Stamford, CT. On my way to work I pass University of Bridgeport, Fairfield University, Sacred Heart Univeristy and the University of Conneciticut. Just North in New Haven there is University of New Haven, Southern Connecticut State University, Albertus Magnus College and Yale. If I were to be competative as a candidate with an MBA in this area, I would need a more recognized and reputable program than Ashworth. THe Tulane certificates don't give me that either, but they were a good primer for an MBA program and were more flexible than I understand the (still pretty flexible) Ashworth program to be.

    I wasn't condemning Ashworth, because I've been on this board long enough to know not to pick fights by casting insults at DETC schools, but for me it wasn't right. So I spent my 6K elsewhere.
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    But the Ashworth MBA is only $4889.00.
     
  6. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    Indeed, and the Tulane program is somewhere over 5,000. I rounded what I paid up.
     
  7. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    And I'm no apologist for Ashworth... or any other solely DETC-accredited school, for that matter; nor do I feel there's any fight-picking going on here. This is just a friendly "wait... hold-on... let me see if I understand you" sort of moment...

    ...but... well... I dunno... I guess I just don't follow your logic, as you've presented it. I think that, just categorically, a nationally-accredited MBA would almost have to trump a masters-level certificate made-up of CEU credits... just on its face, I mean. It's inescapable, it seems to me.

    I dunno... you seem... and this is just my observation from what you wrote, and if I've got it all wrong, please don't hesitate to set me straight... but you seem to be placing alot of value on "name recognition" rather than verifiable quality; and appear to be unable to see the forest for the New England ivy, hoping that people in your locale will be more impressed with the name "Tulane" (since nary a person alive hasn't heard of it somewhere, somehow before) than they would be with the most-likely objectively superior coursework of Ashworth's MBA program... howsoever nationally (rather than regionally) accredited it may be.

    The whole name recognition thing is a fruitless value to embrace. It's the sort of mindset on which diploma mill operators who name their "institutions" in ways that are confusingly similar to legitimate, accredited schools rely.

    I'm sure the Tulane certificate experience was good for you... I mean... you said as much... and that you liked it -- which speaks volumes the Tulane program. It is by no stretch of the imagination a bad thing to have on your resume; and, believe me when I tell you that I hope it opens doors for you and, moreover, provides you with insight that makes you better at whatever job it helps you get. In fact, I'm quite certain it will. So don't misinterpret anything I'm writing here to be attempting to cast aspersions on the Tulane certificate.

    For all I know, the Tulane certificate really may have greater utility than the Ashworth MBA in your very personal, specific and narrow set of circumstances. But coming here and suggesting that a Tulane -- albeit it regionally-accredited (and Ashworth only nationally-accredited) -- CEU-based, post-baccaleauriate certificate is somehow inherently better, or has more objective utility, than the Ashworth MBA is probably a misconception under which we would not want the reader to leave this place.
     
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  8. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    That would be post-baccalaureate.

    [sigh] :rolleyes:

    Typos, typos, typos. My bad. Sorry.
     
  9. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    Greg,
    I understand your points, and I would not want to mislead anyone. I beleive my original post noted specifically that the certificate was for CEUs and not for academic credit. I'm simply saying that this was a good primer for me, and that it would not be worth my while to persue an Ashworth MBA when I would just want to get another one at a local University when my daughter gets a little older. In fact, my original comment about Ashworth was made flipantly, and if I offended anyone I certainly appologize. (but thier degrees are remarkably inexpensive.)
     
  10. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    I don't think you offended anyone. I, for one, appreciate your candor and viewpoint... and I think this has been an interesting thread. Thank you for starting it.

    Good luck to you!!!!!!
     

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