TTU PhD Program (Least Expensive?)

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Garp, Sep 8, 2010.

  1. Garp

    Garp Active Member

    Tennessee Temple University (TTU) has what may be the least expensive nationally accredited PhD (Doctor of Philosophy) program. It is a PhD in Leadership and is mostly online. Tuition is 250 per credit hour.

    TTU is nationally accredited by TRACS and it has a bricks and mortar campus.

    Tennessee Temple University

    Does require a total of 15 days on campus.

    At the risk of invoking Aspen again, if you do not mind an EdD instead of a PhD, TTU does not come close to Aspen's tuition rate (though in the scheme of things is not that much more expensive). When I last looked at Aspen's web site they have extended their tuition break until Nov.

    You pay more for the TTU PhD but it is a PhD, and for those to whom it matters it is earned from a bricks and mortar university. Some advocate campus interaction with faculty and students as beneficial. I suppose there are differing schools of thought on the issue.

    TTU is an inexpensive option from a nationally accredited bricks and mortar school.
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  2. b4cz28

    b4cz28 New Member

    From what I've read (others opinions) Tracs is worth something in the RA world. Is this true?
  3. Cyber

    Cyber New Member

    Aside from their accreditation, it may actually have better "real-world value" than Aspen because the school looks like its been around for a while with a solid campus history. $250 per credit hour for a PhD in Leadership does not sound bad at all (haven't checked to see those hidden fees yet).
  4. Garp

    Garp Active Member

    Yes, I think when looking for a doctoral program, the fact it has a campus based program (in this case a number of programs, buildings, etc) and a solid history is helpful. Tuition is very reasonable. Plus it is a "Ph.D." Which for better or for worse is often seen as more prestigious.
  5. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    We have a pathological need to invoke Aspen on every
  6. This program has three strikes against it:

    1) It requires you to spend 15 days in Tennessee.

    2) It is religiously oriented.

    3) It requires you to spend 15 days in Tennessee.
  7. JeepNerd

    JeepNerd New Member

    I am wondering how TRACS is accepted. I looked through the colleges they accredit and I have to admit most of them are very small schools. But others are schools like Bob Jones University (and Liberty, but they dropped themselves from TRACS)

    Turns out Jerry Falwell graduated from TTU.

    For those of us with religious background that is not really an issue! I am also a fan of Anderson Univ, but FOUR weeks in a row is insane. (I am afraid Hampton U's going to have the same issue)

    Interesting though and a good find, should be added to the PhD sticky!
  8. Ruble

    Ruble New Member

    I suppose that was meant to be humorous. (fail)

    TTU is a great school with a stellar repuation. It has a great history and at the cost of $250.00 per hour is a fantastic bargain. Chatanooga is a beautiful city, especially this time of year. If I wasn't working on my Ed.D. at Liberty I would definitely give TTU a look.

    If you plan on teaching outside of the south, especially in a very liberal area, you may find issues with the utility of the degree, otherwise I would check it out if I were you.

    Liberty University offers their Ed.D. for $250.00 per credit hour to veterans, another baragain imho.
  9. Humor is relative. Just like morality. :)
  10. Garp

    Garp Active Member

    I am not sure how the religious issue interacts with the coursework at TTU (may or may not have much impact). For instance, my understanding is that at Liberty the religious nature of the school does not impact DL students studying for secular degrees.

    I know it is a joke but what is wrong with Tennessee? I have never been there but I understand some parts of it are beautiful.
  11. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Actually, TN is a very beautiful state with the possible exception of the flat terrain in the West near the Mississippi River, depending on your preferences. Even Memphis is lush and beautiful, if you don't mind living in a very humid, rainy climate.

    As you drive East from Memphis and climb to the mountains outside of Nashville, you may notice that G-d spent some extra time making that area beautiful, at the expense of, say, Nevada... ;)

    My only complaint about those beautiful southern states is that the culture is predominantly White-focused; to be completely accepted, you need to act as White as you can. (I say this as a White guy observing White people behave... I'm not calling anybody a racist but only noting how subtle and insidious racism can manifest.)
  12. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    It does impact DL students. There is most definitely a religious slant to the courses.
  13. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Doesn't every school have some sort of belief system that affects instruction?
  14. smokey2011

    smokey2011 Member

    I agree with Dave, Tennessee is very beautiful, in the spring/summer/early fall. Then again, I'm not for cold wet rainy areas at any time, otherwise TN might be a place I'd retired to, so long as all the Vols fans left me alone, GO DAWGS!
  15. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    Yes, this is important to note. I don't consider having to put in a bible verse that relates to a topic or looking at people from the bible and how they displayed certain characteristics overbearing at all. It could very easily be the same as looking at a novel and picking out characteristics displayed by someone or quoting from any other book. I am pleasantly pleased with Liberty.

    I have had this conversation with StefanM before and there definitely is a Christian worldview. I just think that very few people would be completely turned off from it. Of course it would be up to the individual to decide how much they are willing to tolerate of anything.
  16. Jonathan Liu

    Jonathan Liu Member

    One of the TTU's core course is "LEAD 7013 Theological Development (3)". Is this OK for people without religion?
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  17. Garp

    Garp Active Member

    I don't know know whether it is okay or not okay. I suppose that would be up to the individual. I don't think TTU would mind them taking it.

    Note my first line which said I did not know how the faith aspect interacted with the program (as I have not done in depth research).

    If the whole program is religiously structured then I can see how this might be difficult for some. It it was just one or two classes then I would question the academic stamina of someone for whom a class or two would be a problem. When I was in my undergrad program I had classes from all over the spectrum. My concern was always the academic integrity of the course and not whether I agreed with it. You have to understand that this would be the case in religious versus non but also within the religious program (eg some are of one theological paradigm or another).

    I am not interested in the program so I am not bothering to search to see how many courses are religious in nature or emphasis.
  18. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    For no explicit reason, the textbook for the ECE World Population exam quotes the Bible no less than four times. Each time it was wildly out of context and misapplied.

    A good rule of thumb is that if a textbook (or a teacher, for that matter, some of them like to do it too) claims to quote the Bible, assume they are incorrect.
  19. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Yes, Liberty is a Christian-focused University. I took a graduate accounting course there a few years ago. The teacher came out and said that she was a Christian and if any of us would like to know how to become a Christian, should would be happy to share her faith. I found that refreshing. If I had enrolled in a secular, Muslim, Buddhist, or Jewish-focused University, I would expect just the same. It was nice to hear someone say, "I am this. If you want to know more, just ask. Otherwise we are here to study ________..."
  20. cravenco

    cravenco New Member

    I like that!

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