Trump wants Ethnic Cleansing in Gaza

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  1. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    Save the Children has estimated that up to 21,000 children have gone missing from the Gaza Strip between October 2023 to June 2024.[5]
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    They were sacrificed by Hamas monsters.
     
  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The two Bibas children died back in 2023. I have to assume that they were not frozen. I'm curious what evidence is left after a year plus of rotting and decomposing. For example maybe no broken bones or shrapnel in the body? I can't imagine there might be strangle marks still on the throat. I have to question how they knew almost immediately that they were killed by hand? The reports then claim that the bodies were mutilated to try to hide how they really died. WHAT? How did they know that the mutilation happened after death instead of part of what caused death? This doesn't seem to make good sense to me.

    Note, I'm not claiming that Hamas is good so don't get into that nonsense, please. Hamas is evil. I'm seriously wondering how they could possibly know what they are claiming that the baby was killed by strangulation.
     
  4. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    Israel performed the sacrifice, not Hamas.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Israel fought Hamas terrorists, who used civilians as human shield.
    This was planned action by Hamas to inflict Israel internationally damage,
    They had their operatives, still have in universities, especially in Western world. Hamas parades their victory.
     
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  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh
    Abdulaziz al-Sheikh, on dead Israeli babies
    being paraded in coffins in Gaza

    Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia:
    "What we saw today in Gaza is a disgrace to
    Islam, an act of blasphemy against Allah."

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    As hostages are returned, Israel is getting ready to handle Hamas so they are no longer a military, political force in Gaza.
    Last stage of phase A.
    Phase B is unknown.
     
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  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

     
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    That explanation makes the whole thing less likely in my view. The official statement about these kids came out very suspiciously fast. Not enough time for an autopsy, definitely not enough time for any scientific research to the extent described in the article quoted.

    I think there’s a good chance Netanyahu is playing a political game here.
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I understand your skepticism, but I tend to believe the report of Israel doctors. Furthermore, I don't think time needed to see fractured bones, even if the tissue is decomposed.
    The big difference, Hamas kidnapped and murdered the kids just for being Israeli. Israel didn't target Gaza's kids deliberately, most casualties in Gaza were due to war and fighting monsters who are hiding and shooting from populated areas. Israel did a lot to minimize civilians casualties among Gazans. If one watched the current release of 6 hostages, these Gaza areas remained unharmed.
    100os of testimonies of Arabs who suffered from Jihadi terror, how these monsters launch rockets from among civilian areas and indiscriminately shoot, etc.
    Also now Hamas going from home to home, and retaliating against anyone they suspect, some civilians they shoot in legs, other they kill.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    And remeber the 37 children the Hamas murdered on Oct 7th 2023 when the current war round began.
    Mila Kohen was 10 months old.
    These Hamas murdereds and their accomplices are monsters.
     
  11. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    Again, Save the Children has estimated that up to 21,000 children have gone missing from the Gaza Strip between October 2023 to June 2024.[5]

    You blame Hamas for these killings, yet they were done by Israeli forces with American weapons. Even if, as you claim, Hamas was using all of them as human shields, that still does not give Israel the right to kill them. Nor does it give them the right to bomb of schools, hospitals, or other neutral facilities. These are war crimes and acts of terror.

    Hamas is a terrorist group. There is no argument there. The issue is Israel is committing stronger, retaliatory acts of terror.
     
  12. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    It's true to a fair degree that Hamas was using hospitals and civilians as human shields. Let's look at that from a slightly different angle. Let's say that there is a terrible terrorist that the police are after. He has killed whole families including little babies. This terrible terrorist hides in a hospital in downtown New York. We don't know where in the hospital but we're pretty sure that this evil terrorist is in that hospital somewhere using all the people in there as human shields. So the police blow up the whole hospital and kill almost everyone in it. The evil terrible terrorist is probably dead and the police are completely innocent because all those innocent people killed are the fault of the evil terrible terrorist because he was using them as human shields. I hope this fresh perspective has cleaned stuff up for you. See how it works now?
     
  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    It’s nearly impossible to avoid civilian casualties in a war, especially when groups like Hamas or Hezbollah use civilians as human shields. Your logic on this matter seems flawed and the comparison inaccurate. Israel didn’t bomb the hospital—it conducted a raid that endangered its own troops. The war against ISIS, Hamas, and Hezbollah often doesn't look the same when viewed through the lens of Western perspectives. For a more personal understanding, listen to eyewitness accounts from people like Brigitte, a Lebanese Arab woman who has lived through these experiences.
     
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  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    This Arab Lenaneese, now American said it as it is.

     
  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    What we miss with our poor western point of view is that the human shields all deserve to die! Thanks for clearing that up. Too bad that the IDF couldn't kill everyone in Gaza since the Palestinians want to use their last baby to kill Israel if they have to.

    This is called demonizing the enemy so you don't have to feel bad about killing so many innocent civilians, at least that is the stupid clueless western point of view.
     
  16. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Oh, the current Government of Israel fully intends to kill or exile every Palestinian Arab in Gaza and, if you believe Finance Minister Smotrich, the West Bank as well. Let us be very clear on this point.
     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    There were people who dismissed accounts of Nazi concentration camps in the 40s, saying demonizing Nazis.
    No need to demonize the demons, it's clear they are worse than demons. I mean the Hamas. I believe the words of the captive Israeli girl.
    As to their mentality, it's a work of a century of brainwashing by radical Jew haters and murderers.
    It’s clear you have strong feelings about this issue. It’s important to remember that the situation is more complex, civilians on both sides are suffering as a result. The loss of innocent life, no matter the side, is tragic.
    The dynamics of conflict often involve competing narratives.
    Let's hope the war is ending for now.

    Brigitte said it as it is, Terrorist used her and her parents as human shields, and when they were injured they were abandoned by Terrorists, only to be treated by Israel and received medical
    attention in Israel.

     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member


    The current government of Israel is going to destroy the monsters non-humans Hamas and other enemies who want one thing, to kill Jews and eliminate the state of Israel.
     
  19. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    It is irrelevant how justified you and her think her views are. I'm never listening to another word from that racist evil person.

    Demonizing your enemy is very convenient when justifying genocide. That is exactly what the Nazis did regarding the Jews.
     
  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    There was no Genocide in Gaza.
    You are repating Palestinian terror propoganda. In this conflict Israel fought against Monsters and murderers, i.e Hamas..They are demons in flesh.
     
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