Trump is the Perfect Sore Loser

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Bill Huffman, Nov 7, 2020.

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Many think he will not run in 2024, this declaration of 2024 is more of a reaction to the loss in 2020.
    I didn't check the #'s but it appears to me last 4 years most of Trumps challenges in court were rejected.
    Some say its because politics others say its because types of cases.
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The history of SBA shows different conclusion.
    The half quote you show is a deduction from how these pedophiles ended up at SBA.
    Boy Scouts had to admit gays. And the Boy Scouts had to separate their associations with churches because all this was discriminatory, and it was racist, and it was anti-gay, and they just buckled.
    Either that or the leadership of these groups have been taken over by leftists, which is also a possibility.
    The left succeeds with a lot of their mission this way by bullying people. People don’t want to be thought of as sexists, and they don’t want to be thought of as racists, and they don’t want to be thought of as bigots.
    And its always the case with left and their defendants to play the bigot, sexist accusations card and tactic.
    So SBA went out of their tradition and out of their way to prove that they are not that way, i.e bigots, sexists etc.

    As to definitions, A gay man is someone who is sleeping with same sex i.e man.
    A pedophile who sleeps with underage man is also a gay.
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    BTW maybe Trump Jr will run in 2024?
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Boy Scouts were being molested long before the BSA was required to no longer discriminate against gays when hiring. Conflating the two is missing the entire point.
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Well, he began running for re-election right after his election, so yeah. It allows him to raise money and spend money--two things he likes to do with other people's money. It has very little to do with actually winning office. (He was surprised that he won in 2016--as were we all.)

    I can't believe the suckers who actually donate to him!
     
  7. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I don't know if they are suckers or merely tired of being victimized by the political elites of both parties. They know whose lives and communities were ruined by policies that have benefited a very few very wealthy and powerful people yet when they complain, Hillary called them "deplorables " and Obama talked about clinging to Guns, God, and Gays. And these are Democrats!
     
  8. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Who else but Trump even talks like he takes their plight seriously? Trump is a dangerous fraud and serial liar but to them, he's the only credible game in town.
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Right now 75% of donations to the Trump Election Recount fund goes to Save America. Trump can spend this fund on just about anything he wants. It's just a personal slush fund. Something like $200 million dollars now!

    Quote:
    Unlike political campaign and party committees, whose money cannot be converted to personal use by a candidate, Trump’s “Save America” is a so-called “leadership” PAC, with far less stringent rules regulating its spending.

    “It’ll be a slush fund,” said Paul S. Ryan, a campaign finance lawyer with the group Common Cause. “Trump could decide to pay himself $1 million a year out of this fund. That’s legal. He could pay [his children] Don Jr. and Ivanka, if he wanted to. It’s pretty clear that this is a classic bait-and-switch scheme.”
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-slush-fund_n_5fc6a4cac5b66bb88c6b0b2e
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Lerner's silly lying rant about BSA against liberals got to me this time.

    About 5 minutes of research debunks his stupid lie.

    Quote:
    In May 1991, The Washington Times published a major five-part investigation entitled "Scouts Honor" on sex abuse in the BSA. Staff from the newspaper had worked for two years preparing the series, reviewing internal and personnel records from the Boy Scouts; court records from more than 20 states; and more than 1,000 newspaper articles; as well as interviewing more than 200 people, including molesters, families of victims, Scout leaders, sex abuse experts and lawyers. The newspaper restricted itself to reported cases of male Scout leaders abusing Boy Scouts before the introduction of its Youth Protection program. In summation, they wrote "The Boy Scouts are a magnet for men who want to have sexual relations with children...Pedophiles join the Scouts for a simple reason: it's where the boys are."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scouts_of_America_sex_abuse_cases#:~:text=Pedophiles%20join%20the%20Scouts%20for,misconduct%20from%201975%20through%201984.
     
  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Fine. But they voted for--and continue to support--one of the people who does that victimizing. All the while convincing themselves that he's on their side, fighting for them.

    Well, he's on their side, and he's fighting for them, but not to keep them from being victimized. No. He preys on their racially-based fears while he and his party exploits them mercilessly.
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    But....but....a real billionaire wouldn't need that, right?
     
  13. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Point is, the Democrats need to return to their roots and quit licking Wall Street's boots. Remember who got bailed out by Obama and who did not.
     
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  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Tru dat. Populism without jingoism or White supremacy could be quite the electoral tonic in coming years.
     
  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    In the same numbers? I'm sure there were a few that infiltrated.
    But history shows significant rise in the molestations since the openly gay joined.
    If you have anything to back your statement it will fill gaps in my views.
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

     
  17. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Active Member

    Thank you for capitalizing the word.
     
  18. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    No. It is your contention that the molestation increased. I didn't say it. You prove it.
     
  19. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    History? Link.


    Rush Limbugh is rated as fake news. Is that the source for this? If so then it explains a lot.
     
  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    History links are going to be circumstantial.
    As of 1920 BSA had what hey called "red files" these are sealed and only legal professionals who due to lawsuits be it 1971, or 1980s and 2000's
    saw the material in these files.
    BSA had this issue always, and dealt with it out of the sight of the media in order not to damage the BSA. They would dismiss the person instead of calling the police.
    Based on the info in the red files, they adjusted their policies to combat the problem and keep it away from public. The "war" anti gay scoutmasters some call discrimination intensified.
    As left reported - “The Boy Scouts needs to wake up and realize gay and lesbians have just as much of a right to be part of the scouting program as anyone else.” - this type of pressures are known publicly.
    It became impossible after they were pressured to let in whom they let in due to the left pressure.
    During the years people who saw the content of these files made comets, people who ran the SBA made comets etc.
    Some came on talk radio and other media and told their stories.
    Some logically put two and two together.
    I didn't follow on this issue but I think these red files are still sealed.

    Some facts:
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2020

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