Trump condemns Charlottesville violence but doesn’t single out white nationalists

He is responsible for his response (or lack of a response) to the incident.

 

You're doing such a good job explaining, maybe you can tell me specifically what Trump did (legislation, policies, etc.) that allows him to take credit for these increases. Isn't it really much more likely that these increases are the result of processes set in motion years ago?

 

The responses where he condemned the violence, condemned the racist groups, and called the driver of the car a murderer?

Or was there another response I missed?

In the meantime, a dozen people have been killed by gunfire in Chicago since the Charlottesville incident. No mention of that in the news, I wonder why the media is being so selective in their outrage about homicides?

 

Yes that's possible. Just like the policies that fixed the recession we're set in place before Obama got into office.

Hopscotch around till it lands on blue every time to your hearts content.

Fact: over a million jobs have been added during Trumps presidency. I showed you the numbers. Am I crediting Trump? Nope. You said you didn't believe the numbers. I showed multiple links from different sources above. That is my point. You said you don't believe. I showed you were wrong. Nothing more nothing less. I don't care who gets credit.

 

OK, fair enough. I'm surprised at the numbers but my reaction was more related to the idea that these jobs could be attributed to Trump. I'm glad that jobs continue to be created.

 

Trump's enemies are condemning him for not conforming to America's mandatory racial-moral narrative.

What you missed was Trump omitting the mandatory condemnation of white people holding a demonstration. White people organizing around their white identity is just not done, since white America is perceived and denounced as evil and bigoted to its core. White people identifying themselves politically as white people is almost the definition of "racism".

But what Trump's enemies miss and Trump perceives, is that after a generation of racial and ethnic identity politics by those on the left, after a generation in which everyone is divided, classified and assigned privileges according to their race, after a generation of rule by those who perceive themselves as outsiders and victims in an evil racist/discriminatory/imperialist/capitalist America that must be overturned and repudiated, white middle class America has belatedly started to feel threatened in much the same way that the 'minorities' do. They have begun to feel that a battle for the soul of America is underway.

People have asked what Trump's accomplished. This is one of the biggest things right here. The national cultural/moral narrative of 'right and wrong', 'good and evil' is being rewritten. If anyone has to obey the law, everyone has to obey the law, even illegal aliens. If anyone has rights of free-speech and free-assembly, everyone has rights of free-speech and free-assembly, even white people who identify politically as white people.

Trump has implicitly said, correctly in my opinion, that what needs to be condemned is the violence that accompanies people exercising their Constitutional rights to freely associate, assemble and make known their concerns, not the fact that hated ones have the gall to do it at all. Driving a car into a crowd obviously needs to be condemned and criminally prosecuted, but the mere fact of holding a pro-white demonstration is a Constitutional right, no matter who feels "triggered" by it. 'Antifas' showing up with clubs, helmets and homemade body armor to fight the "racists" need to be condemned too.

I'm not sure if Trump is responsible for the reshaping of the national (and international) narrative that's currently taking place, or whether he simply spotted a cultural wave that already existed here and internationally and surfed it into power in the United States. But either way, it's brilliant. His cultural instincts don't seem to have failed him yet.

 

As a fervent defender of gas prices no matter who the President is, I'm with you. I don't think he gets credit. And, the jobs were being added during Obama'a presidency as well. Going back through the numbers from the sites I posted, it's been trending upwards for a while. Which you think would be good news, but I'm usually wrong.

 

One of the things that strikes me is how both Brexit in the UK and the election of Trump in the US weren't the total disasters for these countries' markets and economies that seemingly every pundit was predicting. (Before the elections, it sounded like a coming zombie-apocalypse.)

Comparatively speaking, both countries are performing pretty well afterwards. Nobody's lurching through the streets eating brains yet. The UK's outperforming the EU. Here in the US, there's been a post-Trump stock-market rally, probably attributable to expectation that taxes and oppressive regulations would shrink under a Trump administration. The latter is happening administratively as federal regulatory agencies slowly reorient, but lowering taxes takes Congressional action and may be a lot slower coming (if it comes at all).

Of course I'm alt.right and not an establishment Wall Street Journal Republican, so I don't identify the health of the nation exclusively with stock market performance and the quarterly performance of big businesses. I identify more with the middle class in flyover-country and their interests than I do with NY investment banks and hedge funds. They aren't totally unrelated though.

 

Good interview! Thanks!

 

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