Trevecca Nazarene DBA

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  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Trevecca Nazarene University's online DBA first cohort is starting in October 2019.

    "The University’s third doctoral program, the DBA program will be offered entirely online and can be completed in approximately 32 months, offering flexibility, innovative instruction from professors with industry experience and an integrative approach that emphasizes integrity, ethics and values."

    "The program isn’t limited just to students who have already earned a master’s in business administration (MBA); it’s also designed for those who’ve earned master’s degrees in other areas such as leadership, education or marketing, though some prerequisites are required for those without an MBA."

    https://www.trevecca.edu/programs/doctor-of-business-administration
     
  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    AIK11 has started a thread asking
    "Why are there so many MBAs?" Perhaps because of all these MBA programs we now see a proliferation of DBA programs. I mean, how else are you supposed to stand out? I've never studied Business but I've heard the phrase, "If the need doesn't exist, create the need."
     
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  3. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Most of what consumers buy in developed countries are wants. So, colleges are giving students what they want. They want the doctor title, and some want to teach part-time even though there aren't enough adjunct positions out there.

    Business administration is a relatively easy major, and it's applicable to a wide variety of jobs. I don't find the coursework to be particularly interesting. I only finished a BSBA to utilize the business credits I had from WIU. A University of Phoenix con artist placed me into the program even though I said I wanted to be a history teacher.
     
  4. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Imagine that.
     
  5. FTFaculty

    FTFaculty Well-Known Member

    Depends on the field within biz. An undergrad degree in accountancy can be a workout once you get to the upper division classes such as Intermediate III or advanced accounting, taxation, etc. Most biz students would flame out if they tried that major, as would probably the majority of students on the average college campus. Finance can be a challenge also, and some of the upper division courses in econ can be a mental workout, so they say. But I agree, the average management degree is not super rigorous provided you can get by the biz stats, quant, and survey of calc (if your uni requires). Not the same level of rigor as the STEM disciplines.
     
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  6. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I said that business administration is a relatively easy major. I wasn't referring to the entire business field. Business administration is the general studies of the business world. Many schools offer a focused concentration, but there's also the option of having no concentration or a general concentration.
     
  7. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    The DBA is preferred for those that are more interested in remaining in industry while taking advantage of part time teaching opportunities. Credential inflation is here to stay, most part time adjunct positions now require a DBA or a PhD. Some industry positions might favor the applied nature of the DBA vs the focused PhD.

    A DBA might sell well in the consulting world. The school is offering the DBA given the demand:
    Why is Trevecca offering a new Doctorate of Business Administration (DBA) degree program?
    We’re always looking for the best ways to meet the needs of our students. An increasing number of our students have expressed interest in a doctoral-level program for business education. We see the launch of this new degree program as the latest way to equip students and give them a competitive edge as they seek to maximize their career potential.

    Type of careers? Same as MBAs but the idea is that the DBA might help you to stand out from the crowd:

    Some examples of median salaries for DBA graduates:

    • Senior Business Analyst $82,682
    • Management Consultant $85,074
    • Organizational Development Director $117,213
    • Chief Executive Officer $163,896
     
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  8. foobar

    foobar Member

    Seriously? How can a school this small credibly offer a doctoral program? What percentage of the faculty teaching in the program are adjuncts?
     
  9. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Are you seriously asking such asinine questions?!
     
  10. foobar

    foobar Member

    The DBA is classified as a research doctorate. Credible research doctorates are generally taught by faculty with significant and ongoing research activity. That would normally require resources that are beyond a school with "1,463 traditional students" and "2, 464 graduate and continuing studies students."
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Isn't it reasonable to assume that since this is an RA university, that all these issues have been addressed by the accreditors?
     
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  12. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Are you seriously making such asinine statements? (Sorry, couldn't resist.) :D

    But seriously, since when is the DBA classified as a research doctorate, and by whom? The Ph.D. is a research doctorate. The DBA is a professional doctorate, to the extent that the Trevecca DBA allows either a significant final project or a dissertation.

    As for how many adjuncts teach in the program, I would suggest (anecdotally) that the number (as in percentage) of adjuncts in a small school is less than a mega-university, and that the nature of their progrms is more personalized than in mega-schools. In today's educational economy, a student population of 1,463 traditional and 2,464 grad/continuing studies is quite respectable, and is hardly as small as, say, the liberal arts colleges in Vermont that are shutting down these days. Moreover, the Nazarene community is highly respectable when it comes to educational endeavors.

    Finally the DBA is becoming as common as the Ed.D. in Leadership - a meaningless, generic, one-size-fits-all doctorate du jour, regardless of the school that is offering it. It's a money maker designed to prevent schools of all types and sizes from going bankrupt, and will continue to succeed because of the numerous idiots who get their jock rocks off by having the title Doctor. And at virtually every school that offers it, the percentage of adjuncts has grown, and will continue to grow, as the percentage of tenured faculty will continue to shrink. Welcome to higher education today.

    Therefore, I suggest that foobar's argument is, um, FUBAR. (Thank you. Thank you very much.)
     
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  13. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I don't hear this much outside the Navy base.
     
  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    It was the case that DBA was considered a research doctorate but I concur with Steve that Universities as seeing it as a money maker degree that has the intention to target non research prospect students but professionals that want the Dr. Title. Many schools offer the PhD and DBA, the DBA seems to be in general a 3 year part time program for professionals that are not interested in tenure track positions but continue their professions with the option to adjunct on the side. Many of these DBAs are general and seem to be targeting soft areas such as leadership, general management, etc and not specialized in less soft fields such as Finance, Accounting, etc. There is not much a student can do research wise in 3 years part time while working full time, taking care of a family, etc, at the very best a student can publish few papers in conferences or book chapters.
    So yes, it is a nice product to boost egos, put some cake icing on a resume, become a professional speaker with a Dr title, etc.
     

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