To Lerner and Azad....

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Carl_Reginstein, Sep 28, 2005.

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  1. Hey guys.... just to show you I'm not as big of a jerk as you think I am......

    I apologize to both of you for assuming you have been the "same person" and functioning as a two-headed monster/degree mill troll on this board. I can tell now that you are, at the very least, separate individuals.

    I promise not to bash you for that anymore.

    I can't promise not to take you each to task on your apparent support of degree mills in one thread, while repudiating them in another. Nor will I promise not to debate you or argue with your positions on various educational issues.

    That being said..... let's proceed in a friendly fashion to "agree to disagree".

    Mea culpa.....
    Carl
     
  2. davidhume

    davidhume New Member

    Very gracious, Carl
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Carl
    The next step would be that you will discover that in my case
    I'm not degree mill troll. nor I involved in any.
    On some schools the jury is still open for me, an example could be
    if person is saying that the school is only on the web site and no such B&M facility exists, were I know for a fact that there is a teaching facility, so I will tell what I think and know, this is not the same as demonstrading support for that school more like stating the
    real status as it is with the good, not so good, bad and ugly.

    Some understand this as shilding or trollong or defending.

    I'm still supporter of CA approved schools even in this age and time were there are many fully accredited schools to choose from.

    As a consumer I know many persons that benefited from such schools and they present value, limited but still value.

    One headed monster :)
    Just kidding.

    I will abide by the forum rulles and apologise for any name calling.

    Have train to catch.

    Learner
     
  4. Lerner,
    Thanks for your acceptance of my humble apology..... I'll keep an open mind, and trust you will do the same.
    - Carl
     
  5. asakazad

    asakazad New Member

    Thank you

    Dear Carl,
    No apologies are required. Thank you for your kind words.

    I am sorry for using rough words in my previous post(s).

    There may be diversities between us... but on the task or aim we have, we must show our unity. That is what I wanted from all our friends.

    I would like to tell you few things. Actually (I promise) I never wanted to be a part of degree mill. But I am a person who look for revolutionary things and I want to see a world in which anyone can get a proper higher education.

    With this vision, I believed the Non-Traditional methods and then I realised that Non-traditional method is nothing but degree mills.

    I thought the Education as a service...but I realised that these people are making education as a business. I thought that they sell the education/charge for service.. But they sold the degrees.

    I realised the mistakes and started communicating with Dr.Subramaniam and then to Dr. Gollin etc.

    I realised my mistake and apologized.

    Thank you for your understanding,

    Regards,
    Azad
     
  6. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    I'm gettin' a little misty-eyed, here. [sniffle]

    Group hug! ;)
     
  7. MichaelR

    MichaelR Member

    lets not and saw we did :p
     
  8. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    These public displays of emotion are most unseemly and must be(or should be) contrary to the Terms of Service. :rolleyes:
    :D
    Jack
     
  9. I agree! Let's get back to the mudslinging NOW.....
     
  10. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    ...while those too toplofty to approve of Carl and I are dutifully lining up to proofread and fill out a defamatory blog item as if it were a bloody questionnaire from the secret police.
    Ja, Schweinehund, und vhere haf you hidden your gold...?
     
  11. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    I'll say one thing about Mr. Azad. I saw a post somewhere else (sadly, I forget where) in which John Dovelos made some of the most outrageous threats against him I've ever read on the internet, whether anonymous or not. I don't know all the particulars of this whole controversy, but I can state unequivocally that Azad is hated by the mill crowd about as much as anyone here.

    At least he's got that going for him.
     
  12. asakazad

    asakazad New Member

    Thank you

    Dear little fauss,
    Thank you.

    I am not going to bother about John D or anyone else from the Diploma mill gangs.

    They even tried to kill me. I am getting atleast 10 threatening calls a day. I am least bothered about all these.

    I have been ordered by a local court not to go out of Bangalore. Do you know why?
    For just assisting law enforcement agencies, I was told by a local Assistant Police Commissioner that I must not do anything or it is like threatening the degree mill owners. What a shame?

    I am not supposed to communicate with any law enforcement agencies OR it will be counted as threatening the complainant in my case. It is a unwritten law by the Assistant Police Commissioner here.

    But there is nothing in law prohibiting me from posting in a public forum.

    Let it be, the Assistant Police Commissioner or The Inspect of Police, they are bribed by the Diploma mill guys to fix me in a case....but the said ACP or Inspector can never prove that I was wrong and they will pay for their actions very soon.
     
  13. asakazad

    asakazad New Member

    Degreemills

    Dear Friends,

    Please understand that the complainant in my case is Steve Randock and he is the owner of St Regis and other diploma mills as claimed by him in the complaint given against me.

    I am being threatened by the Assistant Police Commissioner and the Inspector of Police for supporting anyone against the Diploma mill guys.

    But I am sure that I can prove in court.
     
  14. Walt

    Walt New Member

    Oh come on Azad! We hear what you say, but to date I have seen nothing of any so-called evidence that you would have given us - so why do you think people will take you seriously?

    IMHO you still have not changed, and you know full well that so-called "evidence" does not exist.................you are merely looking to score brownies here and elicit some sympathy.
     
  15. Walt

    Walt New Member

    Azad,

    Must say, your silence is actually deafening. You can of course reclaim some integrity and dignity by telling me who "Dr. Tia Roberts" is/was, and who Thomas Carper was - did they really exist? C'mon, you should know because you guys were involved with SRU and ran it at the same time. maybe they were all one and the same person, namely yourself? I strongly suspect, in any case, that Tia Roberts and yourself were one and the same person.

    So come clean and tell me on this forum - then I will know that you are serious about coming clean. Continue your silence and we then all know that you are still what you are - a fraud looking for a way to redeem himself without revealing the past. Unfortunately it does not work that way.

    I look forward to your response with great anticipation; many of us would like to put the SRU era behind us but there are many unanswered questions to which you hold the key.
     
  16. asakazad

    asakazad New Member

    Yes

    Please ask your questions and I will be happy to answer

    There was no Dr. Carper or Dr. Tia Roberts

    They are just virtual names created and used by the DR. She told me the reason that...she can not gain respect without a male name!!!
     
  17. miguelstefan

    miguelstefan New Member

    Just want to say congratulations to Carl, Lerner, and Asakazad for rising above their diferences and showing so much class. I'm proud of you...
     
  18. Walt

    Walt New Member

    Re: Yes

    Azad,

    Your answer does not make sense - who is the "she" that you are referring to? Who is "DR"?

    If Tia Roberts needed a male name to gain respect, then why did she still use the name "Dr. Tia Roberts" with a photo of a woman on the forum?

    You state there was not a Dr. Tia Roberts, and the very next moment you state that she needed to use a male name....... your answer makes no sense at all.
     
  19. Walt

    Walt New Member

    LOL.......
     
  20. asakazad

    asakazad New Member

    DR

    DR stands for Dixie Ellen Randock. SR stands for Steve K Randock.

    DR never wanted to show her. So she was ready to pay $50-$100 to post the biography in her websites. In fact, she was paying.

    She(DR) told that she does not want her name to be used anywhere. DR said that it is to protect her privacy and to gain respect she started using Dr.Thomas Carper....a virtual President for SRU.

    In fact, the Deputy Commissioner of Police, Bangalore East told me that Dr. Thomas Carper died !!!!.

    I don't know how a virtual person can die... just I understood that Money makes Many things.

    Ok. Back to the topic...
    So after few months, everybody was asking for the Photograph of Dr. Thomas Carper and Dixie started saying that Dr. Carper is retiring from Service and going to Liberia...but Dr.Carper was not in the Photographs of Dr.Rick Novak's Liberia and Gana tours.


    Okay. Then...Dr. Tia Roberts came in to picture.. I don't know whether there is Dr. Tia Roberts looking like in that Tia's photo. But Dr.Tia Roberts email ID was used by Dixie Randock and the forum handle was used by me!!!

    All of the sudden dixie announced founders mission etc.

    Contd..
     

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