The Long, Slow Game

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Maniac Craniac, Aug 7, 2020.

  1. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I work closely with PM's and know a few in other careers. PMPs routinely command six-figure salaries, so if you decide to go that route you'd be in for some decent compensation, depending on where you live.
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  2. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Those who have followed the other thread will know that I've, once again, completely changed gears and will be pursuing the Hellenic American University MBA.

    Interesting how these things work out sometimes. I considered an MBA. I condered Hellenic American University. But I never considered an MBA from Hellenic American University. Go figure!

    I'm excited.

    I like the "Operational Excellence" Grad Cert / Concentration. It's meant to prep students for the PMP credential, and IMO the name just sounds cool.

    Although I've changed my mind a thousand times on whether or not I wanted an MBA, one thing I always appreciated was the wide variety of subjects covered in an MBA curriculum. Who knows, I might just take a course that will foster within me the desire to study further and specialize in something new.

    In any case, scoring an MBA would really go a long way in making me more well rounded. I've learned a lot of things about a lot of things, but I can't say that I have more than a basic understanding of how the business world works. Time to plaster up that MBA-sized hole in my rickety old brain!
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  3. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I guess this thread is just going to devolve into a Maniac Craniac stream of consciousness. Which is fine, really. I don't expect anyone to care enough to actually follow all this, I just enjoy writing about it and putting it out there.

    I haven't even started my first class and I'm already mulling over what I want my next degree to be. I could spend the rest of my life trying to figure out what I want to do and never actually do anything. Somehow, that doesn't even bother me :emoji_blush:

    Anyway, I'd love to have the MA in Applied Linguistics. I feel like the MBA is the more practical degree, but the MA is more a labor of love. I'm also considering an M.Ed in Curriculum & Instruction. Clearly, I have an obsession with education, so why not also get a degree in education? :emoji_nerd:

    I gotta say, I also appreciate how cool it looks to see both MBA and M.Ed together. I can't put my finger on why, it just does.

    Maniac Craniac, MBA, M.Ed


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  4. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    RE: the post-nominals, as soon as I had accepted my Master's invites I opened an old cover letter and changed the signature to be John Doe, MS, MBA just to see what it would look like.

    I think it's the DI version of writing your crush's name in your notebook in junior high.

    It sounds like Applied Linguistics is for personal knowledge and an appreciation of the field. Is the Curriculum and Instruction MEd for the same reason, because you love learning and you want to learn how to teach better, or do you have career ambitions that would use it?
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  5. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Both. I do private tutoring as a side gig and I've tossed around the idea of being an educational consultant and/or adult CE course developer. I can do all these things without an M.Ed, but the interest is certainly there.

    Of course, my list of interests themselves could be a 3-page thread that leads to nowhere, just like this one.
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  6. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I might be able to finish my MBA by the end of 2022. Despite going at it the slow way, it feels like it's just around the corner. With employer tuition reimbursement starting in September, I can't help but to think about what my next degree or certificate will be. Nor can I help wallowing in indecisiveness.

    Same old Maniac Craniac.
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  7. MiracleWhipz

    MiracleWhipz Member

    Not to sound creepy but every time that I have seen responses from you to people you have always seemed so kind, helpful and genuine. Whether this is what you hope to hear or not I hope that you refocus on linguistics at some point as that is clearly what you're passionate about, it is a common thread in all of these posts. I don't think you'll reach degree peace until you get that. Just my thoughts.
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  8. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Aw, thanks! But I can tell you, I've had more than my fair share of unhelpful and unthoughtful posts that I'm embarrassed and regretful about. Hopefully, I've been able to show more maturity over the years.

    The thing with Linguistics is that I have to really stretch my imagination to see a situation where it would make a difference in my career or in my life. Since I already have so many language thingy-things on my resume, I think I might be better served working on becoming more well rounded.

    Then again, ironically, if I switched careers, then maybe having a linguistics degree WOULD make me more well rounded for my next career. :D
  9. MiracleWhipz

    MiracleWhipz Member

    I don't see how linguistics wouldn't be helpful in any capacity it's the study of language, without language...well you know. I won't give the language is important speech to someone who clearly loves it. One of the things I think I have learned most in my educational career (for lack of a better word) is that education should support you in what is important to you, after all if you get a PhD one day you are seen as an expert in that field, who wants to be an expert in something they don't really care about? I've also found that experience has more to do with employability than education. I work for the government, started with no degree and have beaten out people with degrees for years because of my experience. get an education in what you love and the rest will follow. Passion and hard work will always beat out check boxes and trying to fit in a mold because you think it's what people want...also I'll be changing my forum name to Dr.Philwhipz lmao this whole response was cheesy but true.
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  10. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Any opinions on a master's in communication?

    Back in high school, some of my teachers told us that communication was considered a fluff major that led to no job prospects. That notion has always stuck with me, even though I hadn't done any further investigation of it since. However, recently I've been reading some articles that suggest that those teachers were either wrong or exaggerating.

    Given my current career as a language professional, my goal of doing more profesional writing and my desire to be generally more marketable in case I one day need to change careers, does communication seem like a good fit for me?

    Or, is it still just fluff?
  11. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I admit to having the same gut feeling, but having actually worked with some PR people who have Comms degrees I think that Communications is really a blend of applied psychology, strong writing skills and statistics - to be able to craft messages that are effective and evaluate them to adjust. It's more involved than it appears at the outset. I don't know how a Masters differs from the Bachelor's though.
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  12. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Aaaaaaaaand this week, I've been thinking about doing an MPA, either after or instead of finishing an MBA.

    It just doesn't end, folks.
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  13. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    In a similar vein, I'm still jumping back and forth between a PhD in Public Policy or Data Science/AI/ML, and I've considered doing the PhD but picking up the MPP on the side from somewhere like APUS. What do you see on the "other side" of the MPA, what skills are you hoping to gain or things to learn?
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  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Even if your goal is to work in public policy, I wonder whether you'd need a degree in it to open doors once you had a PhD in a technical subject like that.
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  15. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Whatever decision I make feels like it's the wrong thing. Maybe I need therapy, and I'm being serious about that. I seem to really have a problem with obsessing over what I'm missing out on. Figuring out what to do is much harder for me than actually doing it.

    If I switch to an MPA, I like my chances with UT-Permian Basin. It's a part of the well known and highly respected University of Texas system. It's affordable. I exceed the admission requirements. There's at least a chance that they might take my MBA credits in transfer. (They accept some transfer credits and they allow some elective credits from outside the field of public administration. My mileage may vary.)

    One thing I could do is try a couple of classes to see how I feel about it. If it doesn't work out, I can use Amberton as my soft landing. They'd likely accept any credits I have at that point and I can finish off with the MS in Human Relations & Business after all. Not a bad failsafe, IMO.
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  16. NMTTD

    NMTTD Member

    Definitely sounds like you have some serious FOMO lol but you'll get there. I remember when you were jumping around working on your associate's so look how far you've already come!! You'll get it sorted...eventually lol
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  17. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Hey! I'm flattered that you remember!

    I was all over the place, but eventually wound up landing in my safety net. It turned out to be the best thing for me. I guess there's no reason why it can't all work out for the better a second time :emoji_relieved:
  18. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    On the mental health front, I'm looking at my therapy options. My employee benefits include a plan where I can do teletherapy for $20/session. I've been thinking lately that my indecisiveness and anxiety about decision making are more than just annoying personality traits but are real problems that hamper my happiness, self-concept and self-worth.

    On the degree front, this morning I've been thinking that if I really want to do nonprofit work, then maybe an MBA might do just fine, especially considering that I have the BA in Social Sciences. MBA for the organizational skills and BA for the people skills. At least, that's how I think it looks on paper.

    What I've always appreciated about the MBA degree is that it's a veritable blank slate. You can plug it in to just about any resume for just about any career. If you needed something more specialized, you can get a certificate or certification or some entry level experience or even some MOOCs and still put together a comprehensive and cohesive picture of what your goals are and what you bring to the table. That's why it's always been so attractive to me.

    It does have it's downfalls, however. Unlike a degree in engineering or nursing, an MBA doesn't lead to a clear path forward. I can hear Shaniah Twain in my head "Okay. So you have an MBA... That don't impress me much. So you have degrees, but do you have the touch?"
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  19. sideman

    sideman Active Member

    If I may, I'd like to tell you my tale of two sisters. Both of my sisters are much older than me, and there is almost a 5 year difference between the two. The older sister began to have mental health issues in her early 20's. She was freshly married and my parents were ill-equipped to deal with it, as was her husband since he was pursuing his Masters in Music, working and playing professionally on the weekends (i.e. orchestra pit for traveling entertainers). Nobody, at the time, understood why she was acting the way she did (i.e. irritable all the time, argumentative for no reason, depressed, etc.). Then she had a "nervous breakdown". So she begins to see a recommended psychiatrist. This psychiatrist began to put her through regression therapy. She was taken back to her childhood in the sessions and the idea was to resolve the wrongs that she felt, and the psychiatrist believed, she had suffered. Now my parents were very old school, and certainly they did some questionable things (perhaps most before I came along), but they were like most parents at the time, just doing the best they could with what they had. This therapy went on for, drum roll please....10 years. Finally, my sister felt like she'd had enough, she would continue to deal with life as it happened and make the best of it. Fast forward 50 years, she is now a widow, retired from working for a school district most of her career, speaks her mind (sometimes insufferably), but has no ill will toward our parents. Even after 10 years of therapy that essentially blamed my parents for her mental breakdown and issues, which she gladly accepted at the time as indisputable and true.

    My other sister (the younger of the two), observed all of this and went about her business. She and my sister would quarrel from time to time, but that was just considered sibling rivalry. She married not long after my older sister and set about creating a household and raising three kids. After the third kid was born the marriage began to fall apart and she leaves the kids and husband and moves three states away to "find herself". A no fault divorce ensues. The husband does the honorable thing and raises the kids to adulthood, funding college or trade school and is considered a prince by all in the family. Meanwhile, my sister returns to the area, She is destitute, marries a man with no marketable skills or education, and jumps from place to place with no foreseeable future. Well, she finally "wakes up" and sees what a mess she's made, divorces husband #2 and sets about to right her wrongs. She reconciles with her now adult children, gets a liveable wage job, and is welcomed back into the family. Eventually she meets husband #3, He turns out to be the one and they're still together. At the time of the third marriage (mid 90's), she gets along well with my Mom (Dad has passed) and seems happy to begin anew.

    So what's the point? During the 50+ years when all of this is happening, my two sisters continued to quarrel nonstop and eventually ended up not talking to one another for decades. My Dad continually tried to get them to set aside their differences for over twenty years but was unsuccessful. They finally have reconciled (as in the last two years) now that they're elderly (80ish). Better late than never, right? But here's the kicker....the older sister that went through therapy now sees our parents in a different light and holds no ill will against them. My other sister now has an axe to grind against our parents and feels my dad is the devil incarnate. Huh?

    As an observer of all of this I have a unique lay perspective on therapy. FWIW I believe it can be beneficial but it strongly relies on the individual. Not only does the patient have to be receptive but he/she must not overthink what's happening, let the sessions build on one another, and not self-analyze letting the counselor do their job. In the case of my sister, her therapy for 10 years was overkill. At the time she was a government employee and they paid for her treatment. If she would've had to pay out of pocket there was no way it would've gone on for that long. So from an economic standpoint it seemed the psychiatrist benefitted quite handsomely. Were the sessions dragged out intentionally? Can't say for sure. But I, and the rest of the family noticed a personality change as the years dragged on, and the changes weren't always for the better. Could my other sister have benefitted from therapy? No question in my mind it probably would've helped her then and would certainly help her now.

    So Maniac. There you have it. I don't know if this was in anyway helpful, but it sure was therapeutic for me lol. Regardless of which way you go at this point, I do wish you well.
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  20. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Thank you for sharing. It don't know if it was helpful, either, but it was an interesting read ;)

    Thankfully, I'm very mentally well overall, I just have a few nagging issues I can't seem to get past. I'm very interested in CBT. If it can help me recognize where my thought patterns go awry, I might be able to redirect them.
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