The ethical question

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Randell1234, Jul 10, 2012.

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  1. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I know many have discussed whether it is right or wrong to expose people with a degree from a mill. I general think the “system” will just catch up with them and let it go but here is a different twist. I found someone on Linkedin with a degree from a known mill (send us $500 and we send you a degree). Here is the catch, they are a “Director Of Education” at a career school (offering diplomas). I think it is an outrage that the Director of Education at a career school has a degree from a mill.
    What should be done?
     
  2. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    It sounds like you need some accountability for someone that is in a position based on dishonesty. Beyond that, should someone be able to prosper or do a job that they may not have been eligible to get in the first place, possibly winning out, based on the degree, over someone that put in the time and effort to achieve it?
     
  3. Sauron

    Sauron New Member

    Randell,
    My personal belief is that if one chooses to buy their education from a degree mill, it serves them no purpose in the long run but for them to be in a role of an academic or administrator is audacious. Feel free to expose them but do so with discretion.
     
  4. NorCal

    NorCal Active Member

    That might warrant a friendly email . . . but that's just me. Squeaky wheel gets the grease after all.
     
  5. jam937

    jam937 New Member

    Isn't Belford Univ a diploma mill? Isn't it the Pakistan guy?

    You can search for this in Google: site:linkedin.com "belford university"

    Here's a "Sr. Executive Assistant at US Department of Homeland Security - Federal Protective Services" listing two Belford degrees
    Sheryl Troxell | LinkedIn
     
  6. BlueMason

    BlueMason Audaces fortuna juvat

    I believe that anyone using a degree from a degree mill needs to be exposed. As was rightfully stated, someone who put in the hard work to earn a degree may have lost on a job / career to someone who simply bought their degree. A well crafted email to their employer as well as the media to ensure this person refrains from using their fake credentials elsewhere.
     
  7. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Oh yea. You pay an extra fee and you can graduate Cum Laude.


    EDIT. Oh man, I was trying to reply to your post and I must have pushed the "Edit" button. Sorry about that.
     
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  8. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    It is a mill, how sad
     
  9. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Yes, expose them all. No miller or millist should ever be safe from exposure.
     
  10. FJD

    FJD Member

    I just spent about 15 mins searching around on linkedin (I know, 15 mins I'll never get back) and I'm pretty amazed at the number of people I found listing bogus degrees. I'm pretty confident I could have just kept going and found as many as I wanted to look for. It's hard to believe how many frauds there are out there, and even harder to believe they're brazen (or foolish) enough to post their fake creds on the internet for anyone to see.
     
  11. faero13

    faero13 Member

    You got to be kidding me....Belford University claims, "Add bachelor's, master's or doctorate degrees to your resume in just 15 days and open avenues to promotion and better jobs!" Sr. Executive Assistant at DHS/FPS, no wonder the government is so screwed up!
     
  12. FJD

    FJD Member

    Well, as a senior executive assistant (and luckily not a senior executive) there's a limit to how much she can screw up. But, as you note, she must be super smart to have gotten her degree in just 15 days. Darn near genius, really.
     
  13. basrsu

    basrsu Member

  14. FJD

    FJD Member

    Please tell me that isn't real. Please do.
     
  15. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Call The Clinic and find out LOL
     
  16. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    That's the kind of situation where exposing someone is a service to humanity. That's just unreal. I can't believe it. He should be fired immediately and then imprisoned.
     
  17. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    If you decide to take action, consider that it may be construed as tortious interference. Generally, I would consider it unwise to mess with people you don't know and involve yourself in situations about which you don't have complete information.
     
  19. mbaonline

    mbaonline New Member

    I agree - it's risky. I interrelate with a quasi-goverment official who has a PhD from a mill (in addition to a Masters from a legit state school). Every time I talk with him/her or his/her team, I cringe. But if I were to "report" it, I think it might come back to bite me. And I don't feel like doing it anonymously.
     

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