Status of New York State

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by John Scalice, Dec 22, 2002.

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  1. John Scalice

    John Scalice New Member

    I am attending a school in New York that currently has profesional accreditation. Sometime in mid-2003 New York State will allow it to degree-granting status, but it will not be RA. (AFAIK there are very few schools in the field that have RA) My question is what is the status of schools that are NYS approved to grant degrees in the academic world?
     
  2. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    The State of New York is the only state that is officially recognized as an accrediting agency by the US Department of Education.

    My recollection is that there have been a small number of schools that have had New York accreditation but neither regional nor national. They are listed in the index at the back of the Higher Education Publications Directory, but mine is not available for another week or two.
     
  3. Myoptimism

    Myoptimism New Member

    Hi John,

    Is your program undergrad or graduate in nature? If it is undergrad, is it a certificate or non-degree program? If so, and you are looking for an avenue to use this credit for an undegrad degree, I believe that Excelsior accepts credits from NY state approved institutions.

    If it is a grad program, the professional accreditation may be enough depending on the program. So many unknowns. LOL. Please inform this community as to what exactly you are talking of and many will jump to try to help you.

    Tony
     
  4. John Scalice

    John Scalice New Member

    Re: Re: Status of New York State

    The program is currently a professional diploma in acupuncture, professionally accredited, which is the requirement for licensure in NY and most other states except for CA. After professional accreditation, the school petitioned the state for degree-granting status, and will probably grant a concurrent BS/MS starting late in 2003. It will not be on Excelsior's transfer list until it gets it gets degreed status. So I guess my question would boil down to is it necessary to transfer the credits to Excelsior for an RA degree, or would my school's NY approved degree be accepted as legit? I went the Regents route for an AA. The professional accreditation would qualify me for the two existing doctoral programs in the field, but I was interested in a masters in a different area as well.
    Thanks everyone, and sorry for the lengthy post.
     
  5. Roscoe

    Roscoe Guest

    Help. I don't understand.

    John,

    After reading Degreeinfo for a while, I was starting to think all state-approved schools were bad. What makes New York different? What makes its approval better than, say, California?

    Thanks for the insight.

    Roscoe
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Help. I don't understand.

    John said it. Schools approved by the NY Board of Regents are accredited by a recognized agency. That cannot be said for California. Also, history has shown us that there is a much more wide variance in what is allowed under California law vis a vis New York. (And that's acknowledging the very nontraditional Empire State and Excelsior Colleges, not to mention nontraditional progams at otherwise traditional schools, like Syracuse.)
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Help. I don't understand.

    There are different points of view as to how it ended up this way. I like the argument that in NY the power was placed in the Board of Regents which is professional academic professors and administrators whereas in California, the power has remained more with the legislators for non-RA. As I understand it, if California was to pattern our organization after NY then the responsibility of the UC system and the CSU system would be combined under a grand Board of Regents that would oversee everything.
     
  8. Roscoe

    Roscoe Guest

    Rich, Bill:

    Thanks to both of you. Just when I thought I had a grasp of this accreditation topic, I get hit with a surprise in New York :)

    Just goes to show there is much to learn.

    Roscoe
     

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