St. Clements University - Submission of Programs for Malaysian Accreditation

Malaysia Affiliated School News


http://www.stclements.edu/Enews2n4.htm


Goon Institute has recently graduated students in both Diploma in Computer Science and Information Technology and Bachelor of Science (Hon) in Computer Science and Information Technology.
These programs have been submitted to LAN, the Malaysian National Accreditation Council and are both candidates for accreditation.
Transfakta Consulting Sdn Bhd. Have had their first graduates from their Bachelor of Business Administration program.
The Bachelor of Business Administration is another degree program submitted to LAN and is a candidate for accreditation


If their programs are approved by LAN, Malaysia could be on its way as an heaven for Diploma Mills. But I am very confident that a worse diploma mill like ST CLEMENTS UNIVERSITY would not get it. Even they are using GOON Institute which is an approved institution but only for diploma awards and not for degree awards.

Peter Chin

 

The most recent statements coming out of the new Higher Education Dept. of the MOE, Malaysia would indicate that they haven't got an snowflake's hope in hell!

The other way these college seem to be going is getting individual subjects accredited with LAN and saying that after a student has completed these accredited subjects, they are accept as transfer credit towards a degree from the mill school, and, hence,claiming the degree is 'accredited'!

 

Given that they are now seeking accreditation, surely they should be given a chance to prove their worth? I am very suprised that the Malaysian MOE would comment on the standing or credibility of an institution, and prejudice the accreditation process. Where did you get this information?

Cheers,

George

 

It will even more surprise if the Malaysia MOE going to accept or take in any unaacredited university like St Clement for the accreditation. It will directly reflect what is the standard that the Malaysia Accreditation Body apply and it might reflect the image of Malaysia education system. It will become the next Liberia accredit situation.

 

But that is my point. If they are unaccredited now, and then gain accreditation, are you suggesting that the MOE's standards are lax? Should the past actions of an entity cloud the judgement of an accreditation decision that is to be done now? I think an accreditation application is good for St Clements. It will highlight areas that need addressing, and it will either be accredited, not accredited, or accredited with provisions.

Cheers,

George

 

Dear George,

What about the Liberian accreditation. They also given a lot of guideline and so on and it also cost US 50,000 which is tremendouse costly to an institutiton and what is the result-tons of discussion insite here+many more from Oregon. If I am not mistaken for accreditation in Malayisa will not be that simple, a lot of thing need to be done unlike State setup an table+chair+phone line+a clerk+a space to slot in the table and chair. then done for teh first requireemtn.

 

I am not sure if a comaprison between Malaysian and Liberian accreditation can be made. Yes, if an instituition achieves either, it can be considered GAAP, *however* it has been clearly shown that due to the corruption and political turmoil that has been going on in Liberia, any MOE decision is taken with a grain of salt. Are you suggesting that corruption is so rife in the Malaysian MOE that this could occur?

Cheers,

George

 

George,

No, I never said that (very sensitive). But as along as I can see if accreditation can be granted to unaccredited degree like this, then it will really create a lot of damaging to the country education system.

 

It will be an interesting outcome. Do you know when a result should be known?

Cheers,

George

 

No one will know at this moment and the issue can be raise or post to Malaysia MOE at: [email protected] and [email protected]

 

This conformation have been has not been specifically about St Clement, but about the twinning criteria that the MOE has been proclaiming from reports that have been sent to me from the Malaysian press. Such things as only accepting the top xx universities in the UK for twinning arrangements, and the best US universities, etc.

Now how in heaven's name could they seriously entertain the likes of St Clements, or some of other mills I have heard, that are going for 'accreditation'?

The MOE may overlook the activities of the mills in their operations with registered colleges (for a while!), but to seriously waste their time looking to 'accredite them! Give the Malaysian MOE some credit for brains!

 

George, LAN (National Accreditation Board of Malaysia) is not an independent agency and is established by act of parliament and is only authorized to accredit local Malaysian Institution of higher learning. In addition they are accrediting the programmes offered by foreign Institution in form of twining arrangement with local colleges. However, the condition for such approval is that University with which a Malaysian Institute is collaborating must be accredited or approved by their respective governments.

ST. CLEMENTS UNIVERSITY is neither accredited nor approved my any ministry of education and therefore LAN would not consider their programme for accreditation in collaboration with Malaysian College. And LAN do not have jurisdiction to accredit a foreign University and therefore it is out of questions.

In case of Liberia they seems to have mandate to accredit foreign University and off course they are no where near to Malaysian education and higher education commission of Liberia is a joke

I hope that clarify your points.

Peter Chin

 

Thanks for the clarification Peter. I though St Clements was going for independent, standalone accreditation in addition to twinning arrangements. As you rightly point out, it is not accredited by its MOE in country of legal origin, therefore may as well forget about the process.

Cheers,

George

 

This story about 'we are going for accreditation';'we have plans to build a campus' and so forth appears to be several of the marketing ploys used by unaccredited schools (or by their agents).

It may generate a few immediate enrollments, and I guess they hope that those students graduate before they have to deliver on their promises. What then to tell the next batch?????

As Peter Chin said, St Clements and their like, have NO HOPE of accreditation or twinning in Malaysia.

 

Before leaving this link, I see the original posting was that St Clements is submitting their programs for accreditation.

As I said in an earlier post, some unaccredited schools opperating in Malaysia through registered colleges are using the accredited subjects of the college as part of their degree studies.

If, for example, the registered college have accredited 8 of their management subjects with the local authorities; the unaccredited school 'accepts' these towards, say, an MBA degree, then claims the MBA is 'accredited' in Malaysia!

So St Clements is not going for accreditation, or a twinning program. It is submitting 'its' programs (the programs of the diploma level registered college) for accreditation. The semantics are important; the outcome is deceptive!

 

Agreed with you Amuse. That most of the school are operating such a way. I do not understand that still got many peoples looking for such courses. That is what they said if there is a demand there will be a supply. and if the demand succeed after using the degree for job then the supply will continues to provide.

Lee

 

Although there is a 'demand', do the customers really know just what quality of product they are actually buying?

 

Amuse, I do not think that people in Malaysia are aware on accreditation and how important is accreditation in United State. This had lead the students do not care what they get as long as they can graduate. That's why those substandard university can be rifel in Malaysia like those college's that affiliated with those unaccredited and some degree mill university for promoting the programs.

How good Peter explain that LAN in Malaysia need these and that but most of the school looking for loopehole to conduct the program and I am very sure Peter know very well in this area.


Lee

 

Amused, as to my knowledge this deceptive practice by many colleges had already been discovered and LAN (National Accreditation Board) and MOE (Ministry of Education) and they are no longer giving approval for such subjects that leads to a certificate of attendance and colleges were projecting it to as part of the MBA and thus claiming accreditation indirectly.

I am sure LAN is aware of these deceptive practices by some colleges and would have been taking action to protect those students falling into their trap. I have noticed 3 such colleges advertising in newspapers boldly as Malaysian MOE accredited MBA programmes involving Preston University and Cambridge Shire University.

As the saying goes necessity is the mother invention!!

The latest technique that I have discovered involving unaccredited universities is that for each MBA subject students would receive a certificate from a local accredited University i.e. Open University of Malaysia (OUM) ….again the same type of deception college submit individual subjects to OUM for accreditation and OUM off course would not have problem to accredit as just a certificate of attendance as a non-credit certificate course. The colleges then can advertise their unaccredited MBA in collaboration with an accredited University… God knows what they aiming for next?

Peter Chin

 

Interesting information, Peter.