SRU alumna at RA grad school

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  1. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    Gus Sainz writes:

    > In his first post he disingenuously asked, concerning Dr.
    > Hoyer, “What's the scoupe [sic] on this gentleman, who seems
    > to be very important at Saint Regis?” In his second post, he
    > asked if the verification services and accreditation services
    > listed on the St Regis Web site were valid organizations.


    I had assumed that he decided to enroll at SRU after posting those questions. Do you have evidence that he was already involved with SRU at the time?
     
  2. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    No, but his first post here was in August of 2002 and by June of the following year, he was already listed as faculty of St. Regis (he may have been listed earlier, but I haven’t been able to verify it).

    Are you saying that in less than ten months, while fulfilling his teaching full duties, coaching both the men’s and women’s tennis teams of King’s College, running his successful construction company, playing competitive tennis, being the Tennis Director for his hometown, operating a highly successful Summer tennis camp, serving on the boards of various tennis organizations, acting as President of the Wyoming Valley Investors Club, working as a certified racquet technician, and doing whatever it is you have to do to be awarded an Honorary Doctor of Public Service from Ansted University, he completed not one, but two doctorates from St. Regis and developed all of the course materials necessary to become a faculty member? :eek:

    I do not doubt that he may be some kind of super genius, but then again, there’s the niggling detail that, according to your theory (which may very well be true), he enrolled in St. Regis after having his questions answered on this forum. :D

    In any event, he was still making disingenuous posts on this forum in August of 2003, and it was you, Mark, who, at that time, exposed his affiliation with St. Regis.
     
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  3. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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  4. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Actually, as recently as June 2003, or long after the California authorities shut it down, Eydler was still claiming to be a PhD candidate at CPU (see http://web.archive.org/web/20030625...nis/coaches.htm ). Is it even possible to be a candidate at a non-existent school?

    In addition, are you saying that CPU candidacy is worth (or can be so rapidly leveraged into) two St. Regis doctorates? :D
     
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  5. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    Dave,
    Which "Roy" are you referring to?
     
  6. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    AED Roy, the degree mill shill. See Dennis's post above mine. :)
     
  7. roysavia

    roysavia New Member

    Sorry Dave. I apologize. Someone made a rude comment to me on another thread and it threw my concentration right off.
    regards,:)
     
  8. mcjon77

    mcjon77 Member

    I don't see the St. Regis listing for any of the people on this site. Did they remove the only the listing of the SRU degree or did they take the person's picture and info down as well. The only person without a Bachelors degree listed is a guy with an MD from a school in Equador.

    Jon
     
  9. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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  10. mcjon77

    mcjon77 Member

    I am curious as to what the university will do, now that they know. Could she be kicked out of the program because of it? Was she? If not, how do they now work around the standard prereq, of a bachelors degree to enter into PhD work. I wonder if she took someone else's spot for the PhD program?

    Jon
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I think it is safe to assume that she did take one of the spots which prevented someone else from getting in. I suspect that she will be kicked out of the program based on submitting a false application.
     
  12. galanga

    galanga New Member

    maybe not

    Assuming she began her studies in January, it seems likely that ECU had room in their program because they hadn't received acceptances from as many students as they had anticipated for this year's entering class. So I'm guessing that her (late) enrollment didn't deny someone else a slot.

    G
     
  13. mcjon77

    mcjon77 Member

    Re: maybe not

    What makes you think that she begain her studies in January? Just curious.


    Jon
     
  14. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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  15. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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    Galanga wrote:

    > Is there any hard, reliable documentation anywhere of
    > somebody's experience with an SRU BA so that we know
    > what's really "required"?


    Well, there is now -- for a Master's degree or two:
    SRU is more millish than I thought. An SRU alumnus and affiliate director had posted as follows:
    So I thought there might be some teeth to the process. But, it later emerged, even he was advertising evaluation "results in 48 hours" (http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8309).

    There's no way they can do a meaningful evaluation in 24 or 48 hours.
     
  16. galanga

    galanga New Member

    birds, exams, qualifications, degrees

    If (toothless) pigeons can qualify for AA degrees through SRU, why shouldn't the masters degree exam be similarly toothless and admit similarly qualified (toothless) fowl?

    From the Georgia article, described here:
    G
     
  17. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    I read the article and thanks to Dr. Shook the whistle was blown down in Georgia. I hope he does not suffer any problems as a result.
    John
     
  18. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Re: birds, exams, qualifications, degrees

    I believe that it is more than fair and reasonable to say that if an institution offers one level of degree to one person for no work or no reasonable proof of knowledge attained then the whole institution is suspect. It is not anymore necessary to prove that the institution is still suspect this week if it was proven last week than it is necessary to prove that different degrees are suspect. If the institution does not have academic quality assurance procedures in place then it is expected that they are not in place in that institution.
     
  19. St Regis Victory??

    I know someone who has a degree from SRU, and frequently visits their forum. She doesn't use the degree, which is a smart move on her part - realized the error of her ways?

    Anyway, she tells me those idiots over there on the "alumni forum" or whatever it is called are making this Liberian announcement out to be like the second coming.... full of flowery congratulations, calling each other "brother" and "sister" and all kinds of other completely silly crap!

    Wonder how they feel about the expulsion of the Georgia teachers and their possible impending arrest for fraud?
     
  20. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    Bill Huffman wrote:

    > I believe that it is more than fair and reasonable to say that
    > if an institution offers one level of degree to one person for no
    > work or no reasonable proof of knowledge attained then the
    > whole institution is suspect. It is not anymore necessary to
    > prove that the institution is still suspect this week if it was
    > proven last week than it is necessary to prove that different
    > degrees are suspect.


    So you would say that the whole of the University of Georgia is suspect because of its 2001 basketball exam?
    http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12659

    In the case of SRU, I agree that we have sufficient evidence to indict the institution as a whole. But SRU had denied George Gollin's "pigeon" claim, and for a while it seemed to be his word against theirs, so I'm glad that we have this independent corroboration.
     

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