Saint Regis University

Yes I agree with everyone said here too. I never got the impression he was schilling for SRU. He did get a bit testy a few times but mainly because people outright called him a liar etc. I asked a similar question he did to Bellevue and got the same response he did basically from Kelly Dengel but was withholding the information depending on how this thread shaped up. I didn't try UIU though. Although Dr. Bear's post showed a high-level Bellevue official that they wouldn't accept SRU degrees we still haven't heard from the Registrar himself/herself-- including me. There is a such a thing as the "Chief" doesn't know what the "Indians" are doing.

 

plcscott,

Atlas1212's basic thesis was that degrees from Saint Regis are considered by many to be legitimate. On the contrary, to say degrees from Saint Regis are not widely accepted would be a polite understatement.

Atlas 1212's character is reflected in his or her own posts defending this flawed thesis.

Those challenging Atlas1212's basic thesis were quite gentle. In the past, certain degreeinfo titans would have been merciless as they thrusted, parried, and skewered Atlas1212. So alas, I say to you and Atlas1212...

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!


Where is our esteemed Dr. Levicoff these days?

 

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The cats ate Levicoff - had to put em down. He must find it lonely in Canada. We don't have any gay people here. Without Rich Douglas and Steve Levicoff, some people think I'm abrasive. They shall return and straighten out poor lost souls.

My 2 cats are just fine, missing the litter box as always.

I live on a farm - lots of assorted critters.

 

Re: Bellevue and St. Regis

Bellevue pretty clearly has a policy of not accepting degrees from degree-mills. Dr. Hawkins' response to John illustrates that.

But there is evidence that the policies and procedures that are actually followed way down at the grunt-level, by those office people that answer e-mails and process applications, is not adequate to ensure that the administration's policy is carried out.

This isn't meant as a slam only at Bellevue. Apparently university admissions officers often accept ostensibly foreign universities as being RA-equivalent if they are approved by a foreign government.

Unfortunately, we here on Degreeinfo have seen repeated attempts by questionable schools to exploit that presumption, ranging from Berne to MIGS to St. Regis.

What's a little appalling to me is that the amateurs seem to be more sophisticated about these things than many of the professionals.

That's why these kind of "flag-of-convenience" scams are multiplying, and why the world's registrars and admissions officers will have to wake up and become a little more skeptical and discerning about this stuff.

 

I too miss Dr. Levicoff. I got a real kick out of his brashness. I think that sometimes people tended to take him too seriously or perhaps I never take anything seriously enough? Oh well, thanks for the kind words BTW.

 

Re: Re: Bellevue and St. Regis

I wonder if another nice thing about Oregon's ODA is that Oregon based schools could use them and their website to stamp out this kind of scam in Oregon. I wonder if Oregon schools would show an improved awareness to the SRU scam?

BTW, I really enjoyed your post that consisted entirely of quotes.

 

I didn't see Atlas saying anything good about "SRU", there's nothing good to say, it's a degree mill. I read his posts, and he said that some schools were accepting their diplomas. That's a long way from saying he supported SRU. He simply provided information that some schools are less than careful. Don't shoot the messenger, shoot the careless admissions people.

 

What did I learn on this thread?

Why I had never heard of Bellevue.*

*Other than the hospital in New York.

 

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Nice to hear that things are fine on the farm. I live in Toronto.....lots of assorted critters here.

 

Also keep in mind some so-called admissions people are nothing more than salespeople. They may be willing to try to have a SRU degree accepted.

 

It sure seems to me that what Mr. 1212 is saying is that SRU is a degree mill that will get you what you want, MORE MONEY. He doesn't care that it's a degree mill only that it gets him what he wants, MONEY. It's not Harvard but it can get you, MORE MONEY. If a degree mill will get him MORE MONEY then that is fine, it's a means to an end. If that isn't saying something good about SRU then fine, he didn't say anything good about SRU only that it can get him what he wants, MORE MONEY. Now you tell me what other possible good things people could say about a degree mill besides it will help you to defraud others and get you MONEY?

 

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And I bet even a few have 4 legs and fur.

 

More Money

I am sure Atlas is the only one around this forum who wants more money. I know I sure don't. The only reason I have ever went to school, or continued my education is to broaden my horizon. What kind of scumbag would want more money for his degree? I have spent all the money on my degrees as charity to the institution, and never considered a return on my investment.


Oh Did Atlas say he was a SRU or Bellevue alumni?

 

I hear selling useless products at inflated prices to old people is quite lucrative, then you could counterfeit money, or write bad cheques.

 

Well, if it's only money he cares about then I could give him a few suggestions that don't require any degree at all. A few simple tools (readily available at your local hardware store), a few slightly soiled personel connections (local drug dealers, fences, etc.) but, wait a minute . . . maybe it would be better if he simply bought himself a top-line laser printer, a state of the art graphics software package, some nice high quality large format paper, and he could start his own degree mill. You know, cut out the middle-man. Let's see . . . what could we call it? Twelve-Twelve University? Atlas Institute of Graduate Studies? Harverd University? Princetown? Of course, according to the principles of intellectual property rights I should get a percentage. Or maybe I could be Provost . . . or Chancellor . . . oh my, oh my, fame and fortune at last . . .

Jack

 

Charles Taylor International University

 

This is outrageous. The man says one (1) sentence in this whole thread about "money" and it turns into a post like this. Bad show Jack. Disgusting.

 

Even a cursory review of Bobs postings will reveal that he is little more than a cheerleader for unaccredited or low-rent SA schools, always advocating that we refrain from premature judgement. He also appears to be convinced that Liberian accreditation is something to be valued, and certainly should not be dismissed as the "smoke and mirrors" that it is. He seems willing to tolerate much from these marginally or totally dishonest people but then takes offense at my satiric humor. Well Bob, let me tell you something else that you may also find "disgusting." Some schools really do suck, even if they have very, very nice web sites. Some people really are dishonest, even if they smile, wear nice suits and have impressive looking diplomas on their office walls. I'd suggest that Bob would be better off if he'd re-order his priorities a bit and reserve his disgust for those things that genuinely merit . . . oh wait, I just picked up my email . . . I've just learned of a new educational opportunity that might interest Bob . . . something about a PhD in two weeks for $500.00 . . . Gee Bob, if you'll forward that money to me I think I can take care of your educational problems for good.

Jack

 

BTW, a happy, healthy 4th of July to all.
Jack