Robertstown University

Good for you! This is honorable and practical, and the advanced standing recognizes and rewards your work experience and various certifications. I am absolutely delighted to hear that you are pursuing this route. Beste wense!

 

Worried about the course

However I am still worried that I might become bored of the course. This is based on that which the lecturer said (ie "bored shitless"). This suggests to me that the lecturer in his opinion is suggesting that I am 'overqualified' for the course?

 

The Lancashire Business School

The Lancashire Business School is considered to be the 15th best school in the UK (ranked according to the Guardian newspaper). The reason why I have not chosen a higher ranked business school is because I only live 5 minutes walk from this school. You opinions on http://www.abeuk.com/news_lbs.htm would be appreciated.

 

Okay... wait a minute! Wait just one cotton-pickin' minute, here... this train's movin' too fast!

Have I missed somethin', here? Did I have one of those... uh, whatd'ya call 'em... episode/stroke thingies or something and wake up in a new reality? Are we now saying that langdell is no longer the enemy?

Dammit, I need an enemy! And langdell was so... so... I dunno... so... good at it! (Just kidding!)

So, like... what happened, here, seriously? Did langdell see the light and become reformed before our very eyes? Have we (well, really, mostly you other guys) created a convert right here in this thread?

 

I never was the enemy!

I must say that I never was the enemy. I'll do the e-business course at the Lancashire Business School. But that doesn't mean to say that I won't have the Robertstown degrees as well! They qualify as a foreign institution as defined by the UK EDucation Reform Act of 1988!

 

Re: I never was the enemy!

As would the University Degree Program diploma mills closed by the FTC which hadn't claimed to be in the UK.

An example is the "University of Wexford," supposedly in Zurich and very very thoroughly shut down in Case No. 03-CV-00021-RMC, filed with the United States District Court for the District of the District of Columbia in 2003.

Here is a link to the The Education Reform Act 1988 on the DfES web site.

G

 

Let Me Make My Point

I am against those diploma mills that do not check your credentials but just give a certificate for the payment of a fee. The reason for this is that such a certificate may get someone to an interview but when the employer starts asking questions of the potential employee and they don't know the answers this will obviously leave the individual highly suspect. Assuming they got the job they would not have the competency to carry out their required tasks. So the diploma mill is obviously just taking advantage of such an individual. However Robertstown seemed to thoroughly checked my credentials and the transcripts did not mention anything spurious.

 

some background information...

...about

• about the links between Robertstown, James Monroe, and Saint Regis
• practices of Robertstown and its "affiliate": Liberty Prep High School

Past goings-on would suggest that Robertstown is, at the very best, spotty in its evaluation of Life Experience for credit.

G

 

Re: Let Me Make My Point

Hi Langdell

Why don't you post a scan of your Robertstown transcript here. It could be enlightening.

 

Why I considered Robertstown

Can you imagine taking 82 or more certificates into an interview? As suggested by one of my previous lecturers this would put the interviewer off straight away! I considered Robertstown because I wanted to condense my education and training down into sizeable documents.

 

Re: Why I considered Robertstown

So how about that scan? It would be interesting to see if it matched your description.

 

Re: Let Me Make My Point

Life experience is the hook that the degree mill con uses to sucker their victims. Many degree mills will play this differently depending on the expectations of the target. Take Kennedy Western University, as an example. They are probably further from being a degree mill than the institutions discussed in this thread because they apparently require 4 to 7 classes before bestowing a degree (Bachelor's, Master's or doctorate). Yet how many classes it is 4, 5, 6, or 7 seems to have more to do with the negotiating skills and expectations of the victim rather than the life experience evaluation.

Other examples of the con is to ask for clarification on a specific claim to experience. People have come here and been totally convinced of true experience evaluation based on the fact that the con men asked for transcripts from another school. While it is true that a real school would demand transcripts to transfer in credits it does not mean that just because they asked for transcripts that they used or even looked at the transcripts. The way that real schools evaluate life experience are described in articles that are available here at DegreeInfo.
http://www.degreeinfo.com/articles.html

Regarding your statement about the UK law, there are many blatant degree mills that operate under this despicable law. The law basically says that degree mills can operate freely in the UK as long as they don't claim to offer UK degrees and as long as they don't sell their worthless diplomas to anyone with a UK address.

 

Building a web site

After some suggestion by others I will start to build a Web Site with scans of all the certificates, including the Robertstown degrees, and my experience. This will allow others to see if the degrees by Robertstown were wrongly or rightly awarded. I wil post the URL to this forum once it is completed.

 

Re: Building a web site

I think it should have independent authority for an accredited university to confer degrees to qualified candidates. Like Oxford Brookes University in UK, it granted degree in accounting for all students completed of ACCA level 2 examination after submission of a project dissertation.

So, if you said Robertstown accepted your certificates earned, it seems to be the similar case of Oxford Brookes who accepted those completed ACCA level 2 examination.

 

Re: Building a web site

I think it should have independent authority for an accredited university to confer degrees to qualified candidates. Like Oxford Brookes University in UK, it granted degree in accounting for all students completed of ACCA level 2 examination after submission of a project dissertation.

So, if you said Robertstown accepted your certificates earned, it seems to be the similar case of Oxford Brookes who accepted those completed ACCA level 2 examination.

 

Re: Building a web site

The operators of Robertstown generated a transcript for you which included the names and course numbers of courses you did not actually take, and which also included grades for the courses you did not take, yes? It would be interesting for DegreeInfo readers to see the transcript which would have been generated by Robertstown. Could you post a scan of the transcript please?

thanks,
G

 

Robertstown Degrees Not Fraudulent

I showed an academic the degrees that I received from Robertstown University. I asked him whether he would consider them a fraud. His response may be interesting to readers of this forum. The academic replied: " The degrees are not fradulent but I question their standard. Degrees and titles are branded about for nothing nowadays."

 

Re: Robertstown Degrees Not Fraudulent

Today is a day for food analogies.

Before being sent to auction, pigs are run through a hogwash.

Sitting around a campfire after dinner, cowboys are full of beans.

After a lengthy dinner party, the houshold terra cotta commode is a crock of s---.

 

I believe that when academic frauds make their degrees known to others that there's a strong tendency in others to not laugh and ridicule the academic fraud for being a bonehead, at least in their face. That doesn't mean though that the person isn't laughing to themselves or talking about the academic fraud behind their back. I believe that it is just human nature.

 

Re: Robertstown Degrees Not Fraudulent

How does one 'show' somebody a degree? A degree is something intangible, isn't it? Did you show your transcripts? Your diploma?

Technically, he's probably right. 'Fraud' is a legal term, referring to a situation where one party suffers damages as the result of relying on false and misleading information intentionally provided by another party. So if somebody buys a fake degree but never uses it to try to influence anyone else, and no damages result, legally speaking there's no fraud.

But the degree might still be academically meaningless.

Of course, in common usage, as opposed to technical legal usage, the word 'fraud' is probably synonymous with words like 'sham' or 'phony'. So in that sense, boasting a substandard university degree that has no real academic meaning would definitely make one a fraud.