Revealed: Trump’s confidential plan to put Ukraine in a stranglehold

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Stanislav, Feb 18, 2025.

Loading...
  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    It's not about me, it's about what perceived that Dem's created.
    I'm shocked at what is happening but powerless.
    Trump supporters overwhelmed by what was seen as constant persecution of Trump. 8 years of it.
    The timing of trials, the volume of acusations. They are sure these wouldn't have happened if this was Dems president.
    I responded in the past, Jews had their golden age in any country followed by persecutions, pogroms, expulsions and Holocaust.
    There are countries where millions Jews were murdered, exterminated.
    No guarantees.
    I think Biblical proportion events are upon us.
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2025
  2. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    So, they are just morons. Got ya.
    Lerner, there was a Democratic candidate who committed legally similar thing as Stormy Daniels hush payment. John Edwards. I don't remember how the trials panned out, but he was canceled immediately. The rest of accusations - Dems just didn't commit the deeds. Y'all elected a criminal and are offended that he's treated like a criminal.
    Not talking about your Trumpovata neighbors - will you vote Democratic in 2026? Yes or no?
     
  3. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Of course Lerner won't vote Democratic. I tried to get Lerner to explain exactly what evidence would convince Lerner that there was no significant voter fraud in the 202 election. No bon. Instead, Lerner posted then, and continues to post, endless Trump lies and MAGA propaganda. Lerner might not be an actual MAGA bot but it's hard to tell the difference. That's why Lerner is on my "ignore" list.
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Dems started abusing him even before 2016 elections.
    But why I'm not voting Democrat?
    It's simple, I'm moderate conservative.
    I'm pro-life.
    Generally I support traditional values, personal responsibility, and a limited role of government. I'm more open to some progressive policies or reforms, especially in areas like social issues, the environment, or economic policies.
    I don't support radical extremism on ider side.
    I prefer gradual change over radical shifts and focusing on finding middle ground in political discourse.

    I have no problem if the admin is right center Democrats. Or if there return of a Concervative democrats.
     
  5. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    Harris was the conservative democrat. Trump was the radical running on authoritarianism.
     
  6. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Active Member

    It is ironic you dont see how we are living in 1930’s Germany in the US right now. If Trump says to exterminate 6 million people, would you say to stop? Maybe you would want to reach a compromise with both sides so only 3 million people get killed. You know, centrism.
     
  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I feel we live in 1930s since Oct 7th 2023.
    Liberal policies created many issues that EU is suffering from as to you comparisons, I think you are wrong.
    Trump like Biden stands with Israel.
    The rise of nationalism is dangerous , but it's the liberal policies that cause it.
    Let's see results of elections in Germany.
    AfD is getting stronger, because 9f liberal policies made by Liberals in the past.
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2025
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'm just trying to imagine how far to the left one has to be to believe that Harris is conservative.
     
    Helpful2013 likes this.
  9. Tireman 44444

    Tireman 44444 Well-Known Member

    Zelenskyy ready to exchange presidency for peace

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he would step down if it meant peace for his country, adding he would also do so if it meant Ukraine would be granted NATO membership. Zelenskyy made the comments on Sunday in response to a question from ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent Ian Pannell during a press conference in Kyiv, a day before the third anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion. If for peace for Ukraine, it's truly necessary for you that I leave my post, I am ready," Zelenskyy replied to Pannell asking if he was prepared to step down it if could help peace. "We can exchange it for NATO membership. If those are the terms, then let's do it without delay. I'm focused on Ukraine's security today, not In 20 years, and I have no intention of staying in power for a decade. This is my focus and my greatest aspiration."


    Zelenskyy ready to exchange presidency for peace
     
  10. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    So, Feb. 24th 2022 didn't move you as much? That's what I've been saying.

    When his own base explains to Trump that supporting Israel is a woke DEI policy (and it is - the OG wokism), I WILL come here to gloat at you. Because you would make it happen.

    No, the rise of nationalism is literally caused by the likes of you propping it up. You're an adult with agency, you get the blame.
     
  11. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    OMG, Steve. You of all people have an idea of the political spectrum; you can't literally think this. You only have to be an actual leftist (as opposed to a liberal) to believe that.

    BTW, there were literal lefties who refused to vote for Harris because she's "conservative". They are every bit as moronic as the rest of the Trump coalition. Maybe more so.
     
  12. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    The latest DOGE directive says you can't select your own pronouns anymore. If you still can't bring yourself to oppose Trump - you are a Trumpist. Get your credentials from the nearest DOGE overlord staffer.

    (...and the Trump movement is Fascist. Simply as a matter of accurate political science.)
     
  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I expected you will come up with some distortion and mix apples and oranges.
    You go and vote for the likes Talib, and the squad, they will not get my vote among others.
     
  14. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    By any reasonable standard, she's a centrist.
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Government employee (Fed) - You don't get to choose your pronouns on emails, etc. What about non Fed government employees?

    Pronouns do not define your identity or create or solve social injustice.
    Using an incorrect pronoun used to get you a red mark on your essay.
    Understandably today, the red mark might be considered racist—a sign of white supremacy, implying that there is a correct answer. Or it might make someone feel unsafe or excluded.

    Question:
    Why was this directive issued? No speculations, was there an explanation?



     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  18. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Let me be more clear: you can't support Trump (and refusing to oppose him is support), you're not allowed to call yourself "moderate Conservative", no more than listing "xe" as your pronoun. Except insisting on "xe" is harmless.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Ukraine had elections unlike others.
    They have democratically elected government.
    Pr. Zelenskyy turned to be the right leader for such a time.
     
  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Stop ascribing to me who I support.
    You are making things up.
     

Share This Page