Poor States Distance Learning

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Should the poorest states offer more online degrees than other states?

Poll closed Oct 25, 2022.
  1. Yes

    2 vote(s)
    12.5%
  2. No

    2 vote(s)
    12.5%
  3. It’s complicated

    12 vote(s)
    75.0%
  1. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    In my humble opinion, the poorest states should waive out of state tuition for students from other states. Also, the poorest states should have the cheapest tuition.

    See the fun pole above.
     
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  2. SweetSecret

    SweetSecret Well-Known Member

    One would initially think "yes", but the challenge is the poorest states tend to also have a lot of people who can barely operate a computer. If we can get past that then "yes".

    :: Popcorn on the ending comment::
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It's hard when your internet connection involves two Dixie cups and a string....

    I believe in internet access for all. But, then again, I believe the basics of life are a right, not a privilege.
     
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  4. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Are you asking the poorest states to subsidize the cost of education from citizens of richer states?

    Tuition at public universities is heavily dependent on state funding. The advertised in-state tuition rate is often just a fraction of the institutions required income, to cover their operating costs. How much is charged is often more influenced by state politics and resources, than institutional decisions.
     
  5. SweetSecret

    SweetSecret Well-Known Member

    Totally another good point. Half the people I deal with cannot even manage to keep a free cellphone let alone internet. At this point to me I feel like everyone should be able to have a phone and the internet. When covid shut everything down a lot of people could not even get in touch with basic government services they needed, because they did not have phones or Internet.

    I witnessed a government meeting recently where someone straight out said that housing was not a human right. Sigh... blows my mind. The fact that there are still people out there who think that makes me realize how far we still have to go.
     
  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Take their house AWAY --- see what they say then!
    I agree - even though there are SOME people (not on DI, of course) whose phones and Internet I feel should be taken away!
     
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  7. sideman

    sideman Well Known Member

    With poorer states you have less property taxes paying for local education and therefore lacking the proper funding to pay for better teachers, better facilities, better educational tools, etc. It automatically starts the children in those areas at a disadvantage in their academics. Then when they reach college age, they may very well have to take remedial education to qualify for entrance. And then you guide the student into distance learning to college educate them? I support distance learning as much as others on this site, but c'mon. At least require, and somehow subsidize, in-person classes the first year of college so a student placed in this position has a fighting chance.
     
  8. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    Each state should have their own RA version of U of People or WGU, a degree under 5K at each of the levels from Associate, Bachelor, Masters. Of course, if there are degree offerings for those that have tuition assistance/reimbursement of 5K/year, the student will get the degree practically for free...
     
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  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Why reinvent the wheel? Every state already has its own one of both of those, since students from any state can enroll at UoPeople or WGU. (Or SUU, etc.)
     
  10. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Between Pell, Early College, and other options… a good portion of poor students in poor states already have the ability to effectively earn a degree for practically free.
     
  11. SweetSecret

    SweetSecret Well-Known Member

    Yes to both points!
     
  12. Asymptote

    Asymptote Active Member

    How do we define “poor” here?
     
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  13. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    YES! Please! Like yesterday already! :D
     
  14. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

  15. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Are you sure about that? Or, are you saying since those are national universities the populations in the poorest states could avail themselves to those schools like the rest of the states?
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The latter.
     
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  17. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Thanks.
    I stand corrected. :confused: The list shows that some states do have cheap tuition.

    The Most Affordable Four-Year College in Each State
    https://thebestschools.org/rankings/bachelors/affordable/four-year-college-in-each-state/

    The least expensive private college in the U.S. is Brigham Young University-Idaho, which charges just $4,300 a semester. However, students may find comparable or cheaper tuition rates at public in-state universities and community colleges.
     
  18. SweetSecret

    SweetSecret Well-Known Member

    As always with BYU, it's cheaper for members. I know numerous people who have graduated from there... and will attempt to refrain from further comment.
     
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  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I think states should put the students interests first.
    When it comes to budgets we can look at
    1. Underfunded schools ( many areas affected, such as atracting good faculty, keeping up with technology and labs etc)
    2. Poor infrastructure
    3. Poor students

    Offering instate significant financial assistance will help with #3.
    Electing the right people, appointing the right people who will fight for the students and teachers is essential.
    Federal funding and investment is needed but also comunity and business developement.
    Partnership with gov, industry, with communities in bipartisan fashion.
    Encourage DL and provide infrastructure.
     
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  20. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Ah. Thanks.
     

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