Pictures of California Coast University

Thanks Abner for posting photos. You did what you said you were going to do and I commend you for the effort.

For those who are B&M oriented, yes CCU is small compared to a traditional university but then, so is the tuition. If you prefer a football stadium, then pony up your $35,000 to $50,000 to $120,000. If you need Corinthian columns, classroom buildings, and the associated infrastructure you don't understand distance learning. For example, I live very close to the accredited Catholic Distance University in Hamilton, VA and it is about a third of the size of CCU. Even Stanford University whose campus is undeniable, organizes distance learning through just a few offices.

 

Well said Kirkland.

 

The idea that it is either CCU or $35,000+ is of course false. There are many graduate degrees from RA schools that are under $12,000. Heck, even state B and M degrees for less. CCU is a good choice but not the best choice for most people.

 

Dave of course is drawing an absolute correlation where none was intended and which most intelligent readers would recognize was a conceptual statement. Graduate degrees were not being discussed. And he is also suggesting best choices for individuals and situations of which he has no knowledge. In contrast, CCU could be a very good choice for many people.

 

PhD2B:
Abner, since you’re on the West coast, would you mind swinging by Prescott, Arizona, to get a few more pictures of another university?

John:
When I did swing by in Prescott in 2000, I noted (and wrote about) the fact that there was a university there that had a picture of quite a large building in their literature -- but, in fact, they occupied only a small part of that building. Somehow the signs for the various other businesses did not appear in the picture. But those folks later moved to new and larger premises, and subsequently were regionally accredited.

 

Dr. Bear,

Are you saying that the photo posted by back2cali is in fact not a picture of NCU?

I will be soooo disappointed if it is not.

 

Hi Rod

Your post suggested it was either CCU or else spend $35,000 plus for a better degree. If that is NOT what you intended it wasn't clear. You are correct graduate degrees weren't mentioned in your post. There are of course many degrees (both graduate AND non-graduate) from RA and B and M schools available for approximately the same price as CCU. Sure you might save a small amount by choosing CCU but very little.

P.S. I noticed you post very derogatory posts about DI on another site. Is there a reason you post such comments while continuing to participate here?

 

Well, attached is a picture of part of the campus of one DL university.

 

It would be fascinating to see and compare pictures of:

Capella University (Minneapolis, MN)
Jones International University (Centennial, CO)
Northcentral University (Prescott, AZ)
Touro University International (Cypress, CA)
University of Maryland University College (Adelphi, MD)
Walden University (Minneapolis, MN)
Western Governors University (Salt Lake City, UT)

If any of these were in the Chicago area, I'd take pictures myself.

 

Dave: ...I noticed you post very derogatory posts about DI on another site. Is there a reason you post such comments while continuing to participate here?

Hi Dave. I've made some occasional observations that this site suffers from unnecessary and unruly confrontations. It should be obvious that bad behavior creates a backlash and should be avoided. I have also said this site could be a great site. My suggestion is to stay on topic, stay objective, and keep an open mind to many points of view. It is a discussion forum after all.

 

Tony,

This address is consistent with the NCU address, keeping in mind that they are to move into new facilities:

http://www.cityofprescott.net/business/property/full_site.php?id=50

Kevin

 

UMUC is an amusing one because the building you normally see pictured is the Conference Center, which is actually run by Marriott. See attached.

 

UMUC's actual campus is somewhat less impressive. See attached.

 

With all due respect (I personally don't know how much is due, as I haven't read the posts that you apparently made), I find that comment incredible.

This site suffering from "unnecessary" and "unruly" confrontations? I've seen the occasional mild scuffle here, but compared with other DL sites, it's like a light game of baseball vis-a-vis an invasion of bloodthirsty visigoths.

Good man, you would do Lewis Carroll proud!

 

Lets be fair..

Many Visigoths were Christian and treated others often better than they were treated themselves. Perhaps you are confusing them with the Ostrogoths..

 

PhD2B:
Are you saying that the photo posted by back2cali is in fact not a picture of NCU?

John Bear:
I was describing my visit in January 2000, when they had a small space in a large mini-mall (but depicted the entire mini-mall, with other businesses signs not included, in some of their literature). They subsequently moved to their current quarters.

Incidentally, skillful visual deception or misleading is not a common thing in this field. I am reminded of the one school that sent out what looked like pages from Bears' Guide, but rewrote them to give their school a much more favorable opinion than my real one. Say, wait a minute, that school was run by the same man who later started NCU.

 

Re: Lets be fair..

Oh, blast those goths anyway. You've uncovered a great hole in my knowledge of things: ancient history. Ostrogoths it is, then.

Boy, I hate it when I'm trying to sound pithy and knowledgeable, and all I do is prove the opposite.

 

For pictures of Capella's new location, go to:

http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=116159

http://www.emporis.com/en/il/pc/?id=122753&aid=8&sro=1

There are other pics of this building in downtown Minneapolis at their same web site, where they now occupy several floors at this skyscraper.
They used to be located at the Campbell Mithun tower
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=122801

Anyone have pictures of Walden? the front pic of CCU? Excelsior?

Sulla

 

A Classic Oldie-But-Goodie

My all-time favorite photos of a degree mill appear on a page devoted to exposing James White, an anti-Mormon theologian. White received his doctorate "degree" from Columbia Evangelical Seminary, the degree mill founded by Rick Walston (and formerly known as Faraston Theological Seminary).

You can find the photos at this link.

 

Here's the deal, Fauss.

Way back when--that is, when a certain CCU student was bragging about how he intended to lie and say that his prospective CCU doc was accredited (after CCU got DETC accreditation and ended enrolment in its doc programmes), Kirkland (and the other, [note comma] unethical CCU student) got his knickers in a twist and began saying that I was trashing CCU.

Despite my reverence for Prophet Levicoff, I had said--wisely or not--that CCU was a pretty good UA school. Apparently, the unethical student and Kirkland didn't care that I rather liked CCU. Apparently, they wanted me to countenance the unethical use of a CCU degree even though CCU administration told me quite specifically that they condemned such unethical use and misrepresentation. (And, no, I never ID'd the unethical student to CCU--I don't do that sort of thing.)

The unethical student is a regular at 2 or 3 places we're not talking about just now, and so is Kirkland.

This is why I said, long ago, that CCU was not well served by some of its friends. But that is no reflection on CCU, its ethical students--many of whom post here, including Kirkland--or its photo opportunity.

So there you are, Fauss.
Welcome back, Steve. We miss you.
Thanks for the pix, Abner.