Nosborne: I would think that it would be even more especially true that guys shouldn't speak too loudly about the fact that they're wearing lace undergarments. Wouldn't you say?
Dr. Levicoff, thanks for posting your lucid and informatative statement. You hit the nail on the head. I once knew an EdD who seemed to use it everywhere. Even with other Band parents in the booster club (High School). Everyone else was Jorge, Mark, etc except him. I agree with you and Rich. In situations where first names are used then you go by first names....if title like Mr. are being used then you should be addressed by "Dr.". There are occasionally people who have a problem with it and seem to run two types I have met. The first hates feeling anyone got a bigger slice than them so they refuse to acknowledge others achievement (be it a PhD or having achieved the title in retirement of Col). The next one was a women who thought her husband (an MD) was a real Dr and that anyone else was a pretender to the title. PhD's were poeple not good enough to get into medical school. When I pointed out that in England the first professional medical degree is a bachelors, she was shocked. SHe also claimed she knew a friend who earned a PhD and he was an idiot so any idiot can earn a PhD. North
Confession: I am a PhD I have a confession to make. I am a PhD. I'm sure that many of you knew it all along. In the political world, a post-hole-digger is also known as a PhD. For those of you who still don't understand... a PhD digs holes for the posts of political signs... you know the kind... those signs that read "Vote for so-and-so." me again, PhD me again, post hole digger
I have a friend who love to refer to himself as Dr. ________. I like him, so I indulge him in his preference. My students routinely call me Dr. Piña, which is nice and respectful, but in my e-mail correspondence with them, I always "sign" it "Tony Piña". My voice mail says "Hi, this is Tony Piña", not "This is Dr. Piña". When I am introduced (often as "Dr. Piña"), I generally respond, "Hi, I'm Tony-- I'm pleased to meet you". At church, they call me "Brother Piña" and my children call me "Dad", the best title of all. Although my business card, university web site and auto-generated signature at the bottom of my Degreeinfo posts say "Anthony Piña, Ed.D." or "Tony Piña, Ed.D.", I have no need to inflict my title upon other myself--I let others do it Those of us who have obtained doctorates from institutions that are not degree mills know that a Ph.D., Ed.D., D.B.A., Th.D., D.Min. or other doctorate is, in reality, a certificate of endurance, as much as anything else.
I have a friend who loves to refer to himself as Dr. ________. I like him, so I indulge him in his preference. My students routinely call me Dr. Piña, which is nice and respectful, but in my e-mail correspondence with them, I always "sign" it "Tony Piña". My voice mail says "Hi, this is Tony Piña", not "This is Dr. Piña". When I am introduced (often as "Dr. Piña"), I generally respond, "Hi, I'm Tony-- I'm pleased to meet you". At church, they call me "Brother Piña" and my children call me "Dad", the best title of all. Although my business card, university web site and auto-generated signature at the bottom of my Degreeinfo posts say "Anthony Piña, Ed.D." or "Tony Piña, Ed.D.", I have no need to inflict my title upon other myself--I let others do it Those of us who have obtained doctorates from institutions that are not degree mills know that a Ph.D., Ed.D., D.B.A., Th.D., D.Min. or other doctorate is, in reality, a certificate of endurance, as much as anything else.
I have a friend who loves to refer to himself as Dr. ________. I like him, so I indulge him in his preference. My students routinely call me Dr. Piña, which is nice and respectful, but in my e-mail correspondence with them, I always "sign" it "Tony Piña". My voice mail says "Hi, this is Tony Piña", not "This is Dr. Piña". When I am introduced (often as "Dr. Piña"), I generally respond, "Hi, I'm Tony-- I'm pleased to meet you". At church, they call me "Brother Piña" and my children call me "Dad", the best title of all. Although my business card, university web site and auto-generated signature at the bottom of my Degreeinfo posts say "Anthony Piña, Ed.D." or "Tony Piña, Ed.D.", I have no need to inflict my title upon other myself--I let others do it Those of us who have obtained doctorates from institutions that are not degree mills know that a Ph.D., Ed.D., D.B.A., Th.D., D.Min. or other doctorate is, in reality, a certificate of endurance, as much as anything else.
Have I already mentioned the expert witness I saw recently who actually SIGNED himself as "Dr. John Smith, Ed.D."? What IS it about some education doctorate holders? Some chiropractors and preachers, too, come to think of it...
Doctorates in the military I have a question that has often kept me up nights. In the military, what is the accepted manner of addressing an officer who also holds a doctorate? Major Bumfree? Doctor Bumfree? Doctor Major Bumfree? Hey you, Bumfree? Is there a general rule or set of rules (e.g., in the officer's manual) governing this? Does it depend on the circumstance? Does it depends on the relationship of addresser/addressee? And is there a distinction in address between PhD/EdD/DMin/etc and MD/DDS/DVM/etc holders? Just wanting to get a good night's sleep. marilynd
Re: Doctorates in the military In the Air Force, professional titles are used, but not academic ones. A physician's signature block would look like this: John J. Doe, MD, Col, USAF But someone with a Ph.D. or other academic title would not list it. It would NOT be: Richard C. Douglas, Ph.D., Capt, USAF (Ret) An exception is a psychologist, who would list the Ph.D. I once saw an Army officer list his Ed.D., but I wondered (because of Air Force rule regarding this) if it was appropriate. As a matter of address, professionals (doctors, dentists, etc.) would often be addressed by "Dr.," but not always. It was also appropriate to address them by their military grades. Again, this wouldn't apply to holders of academic titles, who would always be addressed (or referred to) by their grades.
In the army ........ You are addressed as Sir or Madam or rank (eg major). Medical Doctors are called "doctor" and as I recall Psychologists are as well. If you are chaplain you were either address as Sir or Madam, Chaplain, Rabbi. As far as signature blocks, this is what I saw with the two Chaplains I knew with doctorates: Edward Q. Soldier, EdD Ch (CPT), USA 3rd So & So Battalion Chaplain Robert Q. Edumacated, D.Min. Ch(LTC), USA Garrison Command Chaplain North
In the army ........ You are addressed as Sir or Madam or rank (eg major). Medical Doctors are called "doctor" and as I recall Psychologists are as well. If you are chaplain you were either address as Sir or Madam, Chaplain, Rabbi. As far as signature blocks, this is what I saw with the two Chaplains I knew with doctorates: Edward Q. Soldier, EdD Ch (CPT), USA 3rd So & So Battalion Chaplain Robert Q. Edumacated, D.Min. Ch(LTC), USA Garrison Command Chaplain North
In the army ........ You are addressed as Sir or Madam or rank (eg major). Medical Doctors are called "doctor" and as I recall Psychologists are as well. If you are chaplain you were either address as Sir or Madam, Chaplain, Rabbi. As far as signature blocks, this is what I saw with the two Chaplains I knew with doctorates: Edward Q. Soldier, EdD Ch (CPT), USA 3rd So & So Battalion Chaplain Robert Q. Edumacated, D.Min. Ch(LTC), USA Garrison Command Chaplain North
In the army ........ You are addressed as Sir or Madam or rank (eg major). Medical Doctors are called "doctor" and as I recall Psychologists are as well. If you are chaplain you were either address as Sir or Madam, Chaplain, Rabbi. As far as signature blocks, this is what I saw with the two Chaplains I knew with doctorates: Edward Q. Soldier, EdD Ch (CPT), USA 3rd So & So Battalion Chaplain Robert Q. Edumacated, D.Min. Ch(LTC), USA Garrison Command Chaplain North