Ph.D. in Advanced Educational Studies (only 21 credits)

If you have a conferred Ed.D. or Ph.D. in Education, you can earn a Ph.D. in Advanced Educational Studies with only 21 hours of research and dissertation requirements.

*Transcripts must show a regionally accredited Ed.D. or Ph.D. in Education with a GPA of 3.0 or above for admission in good standing.

https://www.liberty.edu/online/education/doctoral/phd-advanced-educational-studies/educational-leadership/

 

It looks like Liberty offers that second-doctorate PhD in Advanced Educational Studies with four specialization options: Curriculum and Instruction; Educational Leadership (chrisjm18's original link is to this one); Instructional Design and Technology; and Special Education.

 

Thank you for the catch.

 

I spoke to admissions, and they told me that the regional accreditation requirement is open to exceptions.

 

I would imagine. Soon "regional" and "national" accreditations will a thing of the past.

 

My guess is that someone who has an Ed.D. might want a Ph.D. But I am almost sure that's not the rationale behind this program.

 

I can see an EdD wanting to add the PhD. For all of the reality that the two degrees are generally the same, the PhD has more shine to it.

 

Especially at that place.

 

I definitely understand the concerns about perceptions of Liberty, particulalrly from the liberals who dominate academia. But, I have to say I am a student at Liberty and I have experienced the same or higher quality of education and level of rigor than I have observed at the almost 20 schools I have attended or taught at. I have also experienced a higher level of open mindedness from Liberty students and instructors than at other schools.

 

I see that you list an EdD from Northeastern and an ongoing PhD at Liberty. Are you in the program Chris' thread is about?

 

Academically they seem to be doing well (eg Law School, ATS accreditation, Carnegie designation). There have also been a few stories about their own open mindedness and kindness (including from a gay student who came out).

I have never been there but Steve Levicoff said it was a beautiful campus (adding state of the art Colonial Style buildings). According to Wikipedia they have a 1.59 Billion dollar endowment.

 

No just a glutton for punishment. I am in the same program with Chris. I am two terms behind him. I have found that faculty job openenings, even adjunct, are becoming more and more specific that they want a degree in CJ so, although my EdD is fine for now, I dont think it will be good enough in 5 or 10 years to be competitive in CJ programs. Not because it is an EdD, but because it doesnt relate to CJ (even though my research and dissertation were CJ related).

Edit-- I just realized that you may be talking about the other thread where Chris has been updating us on his progress. If that was what you meant, then yes I am.

 

Do not forget they also have a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.) program. They really do have a pretty well-rounded academic offering throughout undergraduate studies, graduate studies and professional studies.

 

I remember seeing a picture of the inside of one of their buildings and you could see a fossil of a pterodactyl or pteranadon or other flying nightmare dinosaur hanging from the ceiling. I remember thinking, "I thought Liberty was supposed to be hardcore creationist." Which in my mind translated to "no dinosaurs or any form of evolution or any stuff like that." Funny how stereotypes and assumptions work to close our minds and shape our expectations. Apparently it extends beyond people to organizations and schools.

 

I didn't mean the liberal comment as a shot at you. I was acknowledging that Liberty represents itself as conservative as an institution by its actions. And I think any degree is only as good as the perception of that degree. So we have to acknowledge that many, many academic types are pretty liberal and will view the school and degree as lacking simply based on their own stereotypes and misconceptions.

 

I didn't take it personally. Why would I? And why would you think I did from one little emoji? The rest of your post is unsupported conjecture. Liberals do not think of conservatives the way conservatives think of liberals. Not at all.

 

Ohhhhh, so you are that guy. You clearly used the emoji to express some form of opinion. In response I tried to play nice by clarifying that I meant no beef with you. Then you feign surprise at my olive branch. You go on a thread about Liberty only to make snide comments and drop emojis. But then you act surprised when your communication results in a response. Then you criticize my unsupported conjecture right before offering some of your own.

I also find it amusing that you made my point by stereotyping both liberals and conservatives. From now on when we want to know how liberals think, we will ask you since you speak for all of them.

You obviously have a bone to pick with Liberty, sooooo maybe go away?