Personal Attacks

Sorry that I'm not versed in this apparent laptop conspiracy theory, at least as it relates to the Disinformation Governance Board. If you'd like to dive into just that first then perhaps you can link to a reliable media source explaining the conspiracy theory. Otherwise, I will consider it more ramblings from the folks running around spewing lies and acting like their hair is on fire.

Reliable media source means a source that is rated "High" or better by https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/. Although I'll probably read a "mostly factual" article if that's the best you can find.

edit: I note that the link I sent to you to the protocol website is rated High. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/protocol-bias/

 

This may work for you. Surly the story is covered by a source you trust.

https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-laptop-scandal-ultimate-american-information-operation-opinion-1690293

 

Newsweek is rated "High" for its reliability.

I read the article. Are you sure that you pointed at the correct article? It seems that the Hunter Biden laptop has nothing to do with anything in this thread. Or in the Disinformation Governance Board (DGB) thread (since you created this new thread to talk about the DGB when there was already a DGB thread). I'm already somewhat familiar with the Hunter Biden laptop story but don't know how that is supposed to be related to the DGB?

 

Perhaps this thread can be consolidated with the DGB thread. I created both. The DGB thread was being heavily moderated when I created this one. The laptop is relevant, as it was perhaps the catalyst for creating the DGB.

 

It is the article I intended to send. There's so much more that would buttress my argument. My point is - the moment we allow the Executive to dismiss whatever it chooses as 'disinformation,' we enter a totalitarian dystopia

 

Then do you condemn Trump and the entire GOP for calling certain media outlets "fake news"?

 

President Trump did not establish an executive office to shield himself from investigation. He was, however, the subject of a disinformation campaign in which the previous administration, the Clinton Campaign, and foreign actors played a part.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/05/us/politics/durham-sussmann-trump.html I think calling the atroshish behavior ' Fake News' was mild. Perhaps more indictments are you come. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/05/us/politics/durham-sussmann-trump.html

 

What malfeasance do you believe President Trump committed?

 

Withholding military aid from Ukraine unless they announced a baseless investigation into a political rival's family is one: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/16/trump-administration-broke-law-in-withholding-ukraine-aid.html
Inciting an insurrection is another: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/02/08/us/politics/trump-second-impeachment-timeline.html
Obstructing justice: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obstruction-of-justice-10-times-trump-may-have-obstructed-justice-mueller-report/
Conspiring to obstruct Congress: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/28/us/politics/trump-election-crimes.html

 

Others:

Domestic and Foreign Emoluments
Nepotism
Attempting to usurp the 2020 election
Corruption
Security breaches--foreign and domestic
Abetting a homicide after-the-fact
Records Act violations

I'm sure there's more, but I don't want to get carpal tunnel syndrome.

 

More unfounded speculation on top of unfounded speculation masquerading as truthful statements. I guess since you are ignoring the rest of your list of unfounded speculation that you are giving up on that other stuff?

Neither has Biden set up such an office except in the mind of folks running around like their hair is on fire. Read the short Protocol article I linked, it debunks this silly speculation that you keep repeating ad nauseum.

 

Have you viewed my profile photo?
Little chance of my hair catching fire.
The Protocol link you posted is much more than an article. It includes multiple Twitter posts stating what a terrible idea is this Ministry of Truth.

 

The article still debunks the doomsday scenario being spewed. It states that it is no different from what has been going on for many years except to try to consolidate the analysis of the disinformation in one place. It also states that it is not an operational organization so all your fears about infringement on freedom of the press and speech are just silly. It is a braindead silly fear because the courts would put an immediate stop to it if it tried to do those things you keep falsely claiming it will do or is meant to do.

Regarding your hair not being on fire, of course it is not on fire! No one's hair is on fire, so stop acting like it is on fire!

Here's a challenge. Link to a reliable source that contradicts the source I provided and supports your false assertions about the intent of the DGB.

 

[QUOTE="Bill Huffman, post: 568278,

Regarding your hair not being on fire, of course it is not on fire! No one's hair is on fire, so stop acting like it is on fire!

Here's a challenge. Link to a reliable source that contradicts the source I provided and supports your false assertions about the intent of the DGB.[/QUOTE]

Well..... That old pirate, Teach Blackbeard used to set his hair on fire, and then there were the tragic cases of Richard Pryor and Michael Jackson. So, as they say... Hair on fire could be a thing.
I decline your challenge, as this is a matter of principle.

 

Well..... That old pirate, Teach Blackbeard used to set his hair on fire, and then there were the tragic cases of Richard Pryor and Michael Jackson. So, as they say... Hair on fire could be a thing.
I decline your challenge, as this is a matter of principle.

 

Your non-sequitur does not make a convincing argument. Plus it doesn't even make sense. You won't support your position because "this is a matter of principle"? The principle being that people are not allowed to question false accusations of infringement on freedom of speech or freedom of the press? I guess this must be your way of admitting defeat?

Perhaps we can end this on an amusing note. I did the search that I challenged you to do and failed to come up with any reliable sources to support your false claims. I found plenty more reliable sources debunking the false claims though. However, I found a NY Post article on the topic. It doesn't blatantly make the same false claims as what you have done here but it did imply the same false claims even throwing in a Hunter Biden laptop reference for completeness! The greatest similarity though was it definitely leaves one with the impression of folks running around in circles frantically slapping their heads and screaming incoherently. I note that mediabiasfactcheck.com rates the NY Post poorly for its reliability.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/02/senator-tells-dhs-disinformation-board-may-be-illegal-subject-to-vote/

 

THANK YOU! My guess is that you disagree with Senator Hagerty. While, I do sincerely appreciate this conversation, I must take a break.perhaps just a week.
Looking forward to discussing this and other matters in the near future.

 

The DGB requiring funding is a red herring. The DGB is not an organization with operational duties. The activities proposed to be performed there have been done for years by other entities in the DHS. The intent was to consolidate the efforts in one place. So no, no vote by the congress is required.

The take away from this should be, IMHO, is that NY Post, Fox News, OAN, and Newsmax are not reliable sources of information. They spread lies (but in such a way generally to avoid failed fact checks) which you fell victim to and believed. Now on the other side, one must also be careful with MSNBC and CNN. They can sometimes also go off the deep end but less frequently because their typical audience also watches some CBS, ABC and NBC which is much more reliable than any of the other media sources listed.