On what day were you first affected by fallout from the Chernobyl accident?

I was in West Germany at the time, and so day 5. Anybody else over there when it blew up?

Dave

KC7WGB

 

What's the Chernobyl accident?

The only change I've noticed recently is the green glow helps me find my kids on dark nights.

 

The world's largest nuclear disaster and coverup.*

Dave

KC7WGB




*taken from the subtitle of a book by Grigori Medvedev

 

NOT! according to a WHO study...

Yes--I read a recent report (May) from WHO sources conducting followup study on the "exposures" and victims of Chernoble--I also read an earlier version from the British press...

It concludes that the worries and angst of the "trauma" were far more effective at promoting heart disease and breaking up families (none of which are among the known hazards of exposure to radiation), have exacted far more damage than any of the anticiapated rises in cancer.

The cancer threats are largely limited to thyroid and a few other organs--not at all what 1980s medicine expected!
Where is Jogn Goffman, now!
Unreformed and unrepentant?--or perhaps just revised...?

--Orson

 

Excerpt of report...

Here's an excerpt from the Jerusalem Post:

Jun. 27, 2002
Extent of Chernobyl damage questioned
By JUDY SIEGEL-ITZKOVICH


Sixteen years after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, the head of the Israel Cancer Registry says scientific studies show the fallout caused much less damage to those exposed to its effects than had been expected.

Dr. Gad Rennert, an epidemiologist at the Technion's medical school who maintains records for the Health Ministry on all cancer cases, says the principal harm from the nuclear meltdown has been a significant increase in thyroid cancer in children, which is "relatively easy to treat."

Rennert said low levels of radiation were responsible for the happy news. He believes that increased reports of breast cancer and other conditions in the Chernobyl region are the result of "increased anxiety among residents, who go for checkups; but when we compared the prevalence of various cancers in the affected area with those in Moscow or Leningrad, where there was no radiation, we didn't see a difference."

Rennert insisted: "We have to trust true scientific evidence, and not go by what people say. In fact, no one has yet shown any significant health effects other than a huge increase in thyroid cancer in children there [about 400 percent].

"There is practically no evidence today of genetic damage, although we have found some genetic changes in the children of 'liquidators,' who were immediately send to clean up the reactor, and have since come to Israel. But we found these kids were perfectly healthy and had no symptoms. We didn't even tell them of these changes, so as not to cause them unnecessary anxiety."

Rennert wants to continue to conduct research, "but it is getting harder to find funding, because major Western institutions... are unwilling to give grants since no studies so far have shown significant harm to residents of the Chernobyl region."

There has been an increase in reports of chronic lymphocytic leukemia in the CIS, but every expert agrees that this is one of the few types of cancer that is not caused by radiation, said Rennert. "The higher rate in the CIS, we believe, is caused by worried people going for tests."

[SNIP!]
--Orson

 

I'm not sure if it was:

• When the radiation cloud was hovering over my head...
• When my hair began to fall out...
• Or when my teeth began to fall out...

 

I will go and get my thyroid checked immediately

Dave

KC7WGB

 

But seriously, folks...

Art, that's "an" MA--not "a" MA.

But seriously folks, I remember when Chernoble happened--reminding people of the movie "The China Syndrome." But follow up study there also showed little real damage. And just like 9/11,
people can be hurt more by fear and "traumatic fear" than real dangers--we are such an info saturated society....

Except in the case of "The War on Terror," since The Vietnam War, more American lives HAVE been lost to Muslim extremists than any other identifiable foreign threat!
In other words, just because they say they're out after you doesn't mean they really aren't--really after you!

Which leads me into risk analysis and John Graham....
Another topic for another time!

--Orson

 

Is there an English major in the house?

Mmmmm, you got me to thinking... And now I'm going to get you to thinking!

I’m pursuing a Master of Arts:

• I’m pursuing a MA.
• I’m pursuing an MA.

I’m pursuing a Bachelor of Arts:

• I’m pursuing a BA.
• I’m pursuing an BA.

I’m pursuing a Doctorate in Philosophy:

• I’m pursuing a Ph.D.
• I’m pursuing an Ph.D.

What sayest thou? Are there any English majors in the house?

 

No DL English majors, eh?

Or nobody is willing to step up to the plate, eh?

 

It was day 5.

I came down with the strangest unimaginable symptoms.

I remember the date specifically as it was the day after the big beer and chili bash.

 

Re: Is there an English major in the house?

An MA, a BA, and a PhD.
It's based on the use of "a" in front of a noun with a consonant sound and "an" in front of a noun with a vowel sound. The sound, not what letter the word begins with, is the critical distinction.

Mark

(not an English major)

 

Mark is right!

Dave

KC7WGB

 

chernobyl

what about some above ground nuclear testing? Say Iraq

 

Yeah! and when were finished, we can open it up as the world's LARGEST glass parking lot.

Bill

 

Chernobyl

Syria, Libya, Iran and Lebanon also good places for above groung Nukes

 

glass parking lots

Is it difficult to find adequate parking in Israeli cities? Muslim terrorists seem to keep double parking and blowing up their vehicles. If we arrange for miles of glass parking lots for Israel to occupy, perhaps the Jihadites could blow themselves up in the comparative safety of the sea of glass. Save a lot of Jewish women, children, and old men that way...