Okay, some has to explain this to me...

because I don't understand.

Why is former President Trump demanding an audit of the Texas 2020 election, a reliable GOP state that he won?

 

The same reason Right-wing media and political class fixates on sickening and killing their own supporters:



They harm American democracy and the very nation whose flag they wrap themselves around, as well as killing its citizens - to make a quick buck.

Hillary Clinton famously got in trouble for saying "half of <Trump voters> are in the basket of deplorables". You can argue about the exact composition of voters (depends on what it takes for you to deplore a person, I guess). However, at this point, and applied to "conservative" leaders and professional political class? It's past "half" and more like "99%".

 

nosborne48

I don't think I have an answer that will satisfy you but I will make an attempt.
It appears as a political fight to provide a stronger case for implementing voter restrictions.

We know TX governor is an advocate of implementing voter restrictions to prevent "fraud".
He had a bill earlier this year for tightening pathways to voting that led Democratic legislators to flee to Washington to deny the state legislature a quorum.
The bill, did passed in August after a quorum was reached, it banned curbside voting, empowered partisan poll watchers, curtailed the use of drop boxes and more.
The Democrats protested and attacked the bill as voter suppression.
Trump called it “watered-down” and demanded Gov Abbott sign legislation to look into his claims about the last presidential election beyond just future races.
“Texans demand a real audit to completely address their concerns,” he said.

This is Trumps political strategy that is followed in AZ, PA, TX and some other states. Its a part of a bigger Partizan fight between both parties.

"In March 2021 House passed expansive legislation to create uniform national voting standards, overhaul campaign finance laws and outlaw partisan redistricting,
advancing a centerpiece of the Democratic voting rights agenda amid fierce Republican attacks that threaten to stop it cold in the Senate."

This is an on going political fight.

There maybe there other reasons as well.
And I can be wrong.

 

The goal is to make the country miserable--which is why they're willing to blow up the economy and stand by while hundreds of thousands die needlessly from Covid. Then hang it all around Biden's head. Finally, breed great distrust in the democratic process so they can foment resistance to outcomes they don't desire--and change the ones they can.

It has nothing to do with verifying or challenging the actual election outcomes. Kick up a lot of dust, blame someone else for it, and then run against that. It's what you do when you're entire political party is made up of traitors to the nation.

 

Inevitable? Let's hope so. "A republic, if we can keep it".

 

Well, Texas has had a lot of experience with voter suppression and denial of civil rights. With slavery itself, too, come to that.

 

And treason.

 

Who was tried and found guilty of treason?

WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.
So the prosecutors couldn't establish that he knew in advance that his supporters planned to violently assault the Capitol.

Texas did raised 2 Bil $$$ to protect its borders from what they say insufficient support and influx of people crossing illegally etc.

"Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) says the Texas Department of Public Safety and Texas National Guard have sealed the border in Del Rio where approximately 16,000 people, mostly Haitian refugees, have crossed into the United States from Mexico by walking over a dam in the Rio Grande River in the last week.

The governor said that the DPS and Texas National Guard took unprecedented steps to seal off the border by placing DPS and Texas National Guard vehicles along the border to create a makeshift barrier that extends for miles.
They are highly critical of the situation at the border."

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/wall-of-vehicles-seals-border-in-del-rio-abbott-says-failure-to-enforce-laws-led-to-chaos/2748029/

 

As we know, it is not necessary to have been tried and convicted for a crime to have done it.

 

I said that the state of Texas has a history of treason. The state attempted to secede from the Union and joined the Confederacy in 1861 then made war on the federal government. That's treason.

 

Their treason goes farther back than that. When the Tejanos (or, as they sometimes called themselves, Texians) decided not to pay their taxes and to ignore laws against slavery, the Mexican government tried to manage the issue. Instead of obeying the law, they took up arms against the Mexican government, eventually wearing them down and winning their "freedom."

To this day, Texans think of themselves as something different than mere Americans.

(By the way, the "Don't Mess With Texas" slogan that seems so filled with toxic masculinity was, in reality, an anti-littering campaign. Snowflakes.)

 

I understand what you are saying.
I would say innocent until proven guilty.
Just like with elections accusations, that Dem's stole the 2020 elections.
Innocent until proven guilty.

 

My misunderstanding, sorry.

I admit I know very little about state of TX history.
But I think the polarization is everywhere, and those in TX among the GOP leaders think that many leaders on the Dem's are traitors to liberty and our constitution.
And so it goes, Dem's think the other way around

 

Who was (is, actually) offering the presumption of innocence in that matter? The accusers sure aren't. In fact, they pressed forward without a shred of evidence and pronounced everyone guilty--in the races they lost.

Only one party is actively subverting the Constitution, our election system, and the rule of law. Any attempt at pushing a false equivalency fails.

 

That your opinion, but there are anthers on the GOP that blame your party in doing just what they accuse others of doing marginalize Americans who do not support their increasingly radical agenda and impose it on an unwilling nation.
“tyranny of the majority.” Democrats been proposing what amounts to a systemic assault on the foundations of our federal system pursuing a tyranny of the majority.
Such as abolishing the electoral college.
Planning packing the SCOTUS.


GOP blames president on lying to the Americans about the exit from Afghanistan,.

I don't take sides on this one.

 

Oh, I don’t know. I could make a few arguments in favor of the Electoral College. On balance I think we would do better to reform it than eliminate it. One reform would be to give every state the number of Electoral votes as it has Representatives rather that Representatives and Senators. A straight popular vote would render meaningless the votes of many small states. We don't think this way much anymore but the U.S. government is not merely the government of the people. It's also the (limited) common authority between states as sovereigns.

 

Just to be clear, your point does not disagree with the assertion that the electoral college is undemocratic, only that it might possibly serve a useful purpose besides putting a thumb on the scale.

You suggestion would make it more democratic. But, I would argue that having two senators is a great enough power to bestow to the smaller states.