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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I think he ordered to destroy Hamas terror infrastructure. This is the result of Hamas investments over the last two decades.

    At least for now, rockets are not falling on Israel. Possibly, Israel's enemies know what can be their situation if they attack Israel?
    Maybe Palestinians can self determine without the need to destroy Israel.
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    That's actually very funny.

    Nothing is left in Gaza. ALL INFRASTRUCTURE was destroyed not just Hamas terror infrastructure. I'm sure the truth is that Netanyahu ordered everything in Gaza to be destroyed and that is exactly what they did. They destroyed everything. About 2 million people now have to live like rats.

    What makes this extra funny is I think that you actually believe the stuff you post!
     
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  4. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    There you go again using Hamas and Palestinians as synonyms. They are not. Hamas is a terrorist organization and the Palestinians are an ethnonational group.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    You make a valid point, but the term "Palestinian Terror" isn't something I invented. Hamas is indeed one of the major players, but there are other Palestinian militant organizations contributing to the violence. If the people in Gaza truly wanted peace, they could have done more to prevent this conflict. For example, just last week, 70 tunnels were uncovered at the Rafah crossing to Egypt.
    Additionally, with Iran resupplying Hamas and new rockets being produced, it's clear that this cycle of violence is likely to continue unless there's a significant change in leadership and strategy.
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Hamas brought this upon themselves and Gaza. Hamas claims victory. While I'm not a military expert, those who specialize in guerrilla warfare in densely populated areas/fortresses agree that the destruction was largely unavoidable. And the situation is far from over—hostages are still being held in tunnels.
     
  7. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    But you use it.

    There are various other militant groups that are not Palestinian also against Israel. Hamas is and has been the main group of scrutiny for their attack on Oct 7th that you continue to reiterate. Either-way this doesn't implicate the entire ethnic group of Palestinians as being terrorists.

    That implies the Palestinians were complicit and guilty by association, which again is the point I am making. They are innocent. It is also a false cause assuming the Palestinians could in fact do something and that their actions would have prevented this conflict, which even you admit, runs deeper than Oct 7th. What should t

    Again, you are using guilt by association by saying the Palestinian people are guilty of the actions of a terrorist group that has also been terrorizing them by withholding resources on top of the terror being committed by Israel. It is victim blaming.
     
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  8. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    But the overwhelming majority of the damage was to innocent Palestinians. It wasnt even targeted, it was indiscriminate killing.

    I suspect you will use the argument that they had all kinds of tunnels under buildings and those needed to be destroyed. And to that I say you dont blow up a house full of hostages to kill a terrorist. You have to be tactical and selective, which Israel has not been.
     
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  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Yes, Hamas brought their own destruction upon themselves. It is Israel that wanted to destroy everything they possibly could which was practically everything in Gaza including homes, buildings, belongings, community infrastructure, that had nothing to do with Hamas. Netanyahu didn't care. Netanyahu obviously just wanted to destroy everything he could. Biden obviously knew this was what Netanyahu was doing and tried to minimize his ability to continue doing that by not sending 2000 pound bombs to Israel.
     
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  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I hope both people will find a way to coexist in peace.
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I wish that Netanyahu and his government had that same hope. I have strong doubts though.
     
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  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The famous Syrian actor, Bashar Ismail, in
    an interview with Sky News: "There are
    22,000 murdered (Alawis and Christians) by
    the Golani regime, and I stand by that
    humber." 15 members of his own family
    were also murdered in the city of Jabala, and
    this is the first time anyone has given such
    numbers.
    Ismail is an Alawite, but he had reservations
    about the Bashar al-Assad regime even
    before the revolution. Today he says: "Golani
    and Bashar -the same thing
    In other words, within a few days, the
    Golanis killed half of the number of people
    killed in Gaza, supposedly, and it's amazing
    that no one is dealing with it in the "media.
    All day long, Israel and Jews, "Gaza", "Gaza"
    but such a genocide - passes, continues, and
    no one is interested.

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  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Tulsi Gabbard said that Bashar al-Assad wasn't such a bad guy. So should I believe the head of our government Intelligence Divisions or this guy? If this guy then why did Trump pick Tulsi Gabbard? He must really like her?
     
  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Jihadits agenda, will not protest against their own, this is what we see on campuses.
    Where are all the protests? Why are campuses so quiet while massacres are happening in Syria? And it's not just Syria—why is there no significant disruption or outcry over Russia's actions in Ukraine, where the war has been ongoing for three years, with so many lives lost? Why is it that the narrative seems to primarily mobilize anti-Israel groups, while other atrocities, like those in Syria, Africa countries, and Ukraine, don't spark the same level of activism?
    It’s a troubling discrepancy that raises questions about the influence of media, political agendas, and the ways in which different conflicts are framed or ignored.
     
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  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I really don't know and really don't care what conspiracy theories you think this all implies. Answers are pretty simple and straight forward though, I think.

    Gaza was in the news more than the other cases you list. Also, internal massacres like in Syria are much less accessible and known. Bashar al-Assad wanted to keep that stuff as quiet as possible. He was able to do that because it was internal to his country and he had absolute control of the government and news media. Why would people demonstrate against Bashar al-Assad's massacres in the USA. The USA had nothing to do with it and couldn't stop it? Ukraine is in the news much more than Syria but not as much as Gaza. There are multiple reasons for that. USA was supporting Israel much more than we were Ukraine. The deaths were probably much greater in Gaza. There was far more reporters in Gaza than Ukraine and therefore far more news stories from that. Why? Because Hamas wanted the Gaza destruction to be in the news. The Ukrainian government does not publish death tolls because it would give information to Russia that Russia could use to increase destruction in the future. It is not in Ukraine's interest to let news reporters film all the destruction. Looking at satellite pictures the destruction in Gaza was far far greater than any other place that you mention. Also why would students protest against Russia in the USA? We aren't helping Russia we are (or were) supporting Ukraine.
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    No Jews, No News.
    UN harassment of Israel is similar.
    And hypocrats on campuses, protest only against Israel.
     
  17. NotJoeBiden

    NotJoeBiden Well-Known Member

    Ive said it once and I’ll say it again, protesting Israel is not the same as protesting Jewish people. Protesting Israel is not antisemitic. Protesting Israel is free speech.
     
  18. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Your post is plain silly. For probably 99.9% of the folks protesting, it is not true that antisemitism played any role.

    Let me try to make it even simpler to understand.

    1. No reason to protest Syria. USA had no control or influence, nothing to protest here in the USA. It would just be a total waste of time.

    2. No reason to protest Russia. USA supports Ukraine. It would make zero sense to protest Russia in the USA. Russia was under strong sanctions already from the USA. It would just be a waste of time to protest Russia here in the USA.

    3. USA supported the aggressor that was committing genocide and destroying everything in Gaza using USA supplied weapons and bombs. Schools also sometimes have relationships with Israel. Protesting was trying get the USA to stop supporting the genocide or getting schools to cut their relations with Israel.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Again you are promoting Hamas propoganda.
    The truth is that US was supporting survival of Israel.
    Israel fought on multiple fronts against ruthless enemy that want to destroy it.
    Iran, and Shia web of zealots, is the main tragedy of Gaza, and Lebanon.
     
  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Since I used the word genocide you lose your mind and can't read the main points? Sorry, I'll try again.

    Let me try to make it even simpler to understand and not distract you by using a word that sends you into a mental loop.

    1. No reason to protest Syria. USA had no control or influence, nothing to protest here in the USA. It would just be a total waste of time.

    2. No reason to protest Russia. USA supports Ukraine. It would make zero sense to protest Russia in the USA. Russia was under strong sanctions already from the USA. It would just be a waste of time to protest Russia here in the USA.

    3. USA supported the aggressor that was destroying everything in Gaza using USA supplied weapons and bombs. Schools also sometimes have relationships with Israel. Protesting was trying get the USA to stop supporting the destruction in Gaza or getting schools to cut their relations with Israel.
     

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