NSU- employment ad says the prefer an AACSB degree and they will offer a Ph.D.

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  1. slb1957

    slb1957 New Member

    Very interesting stuff: http://chronicle.com/jobs/id.php?id=315871

    I was surprised to see Nova say the prefer an AACSB degree when their degree is not AACSB approved. Also, the article says they will offer a Ph.D. program in Marketing.

    Could this mean they will pursue the Holy Grail of AACSB accreditation??
     
  2. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    It wouldn't surprise me. NSU has really got its act together and keeps getting better all the time.
     
  3. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    The last time I was on campus, faculty and staff were talking about AACSB. The new accreditation guidelines may allow NSU (and other programs like theirs) to move forward - but only time will tell.

    Regards - Andy

     
  4. blaketots

    blaketots New Member

    Andy,

    What are the new accreditation guidelines that you're speaking of?
     
  5. stock

    stock New Member

    yep, they might be on the path to obtaining accrediation
     
  6. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    Check out:

    http://www.aacsb.edu/accreditation/business/standards01-01-04.pdf

    The big change is the m ove away from requiring X% full time faculty to the concept of having x% "participating faculty". The concept of "participating" means that the majority of the faculty have to be involved in more than term at a time adjunct teaching. AACSB seems to think (and I agree) that faculty should be involved in developing curriculum, research and other tasks.

    Generally, I believe that AACSB has opened up - but they still have some strong ideas about business education.

    Regards - Andy

     
  7. dst10spr97

    dst10spr97 New Member

    Still no mention

    Of when they will offer a phd in business as opposed to a DBA?
     
  8. Messagewriter

    Messagewriter New Member

    NSU's AACSB effort

    I'm currently in the admissions pipeline. I inquired and was told that MBA program is the holdback to the extent that the MBA students prefer industry practitioners teaching them.

    Reading betweent the lines, it comes down to cost benifit. AACSB accredidation drives up payroll to a great extent. Plus, the payroll moves from a variable expense (adjunts) to a fixed expense, such as tenute track full-time faculty. After paying all this money, the MBA students essentially get folks who may have not held professional positions in the private sector.

    The reality is academia at the research university level does value teaching, if the proxy for that value is their willingness to compensate for teaching. Thus, a tenure track professor who is paid say $60,000 coming in as a green assistant professor may only be paid a third of that for teaching 6 courser per year as an adjunt. Subtracting the adjuct expense from any university's payroll shows how much they are really being paid for "all esle" other than teaching. NSU's payroll would go up by that differential, or about 60% I'd guess on average, to say nothing of the support those new "researchers" would need if AACSB type professors.

    It's a frustrating issue but as usual, comes down to money. NSU told me that the decsion was "no" in the short term with future consideration remaining on the table, hence the AACSB employmet ad referenced above.
     
  9. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    The key for me is "prefer" , not required. Proves to me NSU wants the best candidate possible. NSU is still on my list of potential schools once my new business settles down.

    It is my understanding that the AACSB does not require doctorates to be AACSB accredited. If this is incorrect could someone point me to where it is stated by the AACSB that an AACSB accredited degree is required to teach at an AACSB school?

    Just my opinion
     
  10. Messagewriter

    Messagewriter New Member

    AACSB

    Nova's got the best gig going if you can handle the residency. AACSB funtions like a club. Once you're in, they only like their own. AACSB imposses ratios of who can teach depending on degree, the field the degree is in, etc. and produces a score of some kind I think. The schools have wiggle room to have non-AACSB folks there, but it just burns their quota of favors when they do this. They reserve their allotment of non AACSBs for exceptional candidates I'd think, as evidenced by publication. But who knows.
     
  11. Han

    Han New Member

    Re: Re: NSU- employment ad says the prefer an AACSB degree and they will offer a Ph.D.

    "Applicants must hold a doctorate in Accountancy in Business Administration from a school accredited by AACSB International-The Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business."

    http://www.csus.edu/fas/vacancies/ACCY%20Financial.doc

    Last time I provided a link, I was told it was the exception, so I provided another, and was told it was an exception. I just wanted to put up that some AACSB schools require AACSB degree holders. If it is the exception or the rule, I have my opinion, but will stay out of that here, since I think the majority of AACSB full time professors are AACSB degree holders. I think those that are not (and they do exist) are the exception and not the rule.

    I am not sure if it is a requirement of AACSB or not. I have not looked into it enough (their book of accreditation is HUGE), but it makes logical sense to me that if a school goes through the AACSB accreditation process, that they would have professors at the same standard.

    Is NSU a member? I would like to see a pure DL school get it, TUI as in the lead in speculation here, but with their situation, I am not sure if that is true anymore. Is NSU the new lead runner?
     

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