Nova International University

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  1. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    One can only wish, Brian, that your assessment was true. Unfortunately, it isn't. Degree/Diploma/Certificate/Accreditation mills will never cease to exist as long as:

    1. Persons are willing to cast their ethics aside and buy a credential.
    2. Persons are willing to cast their ethics aside and use such credentials.
    3. Persons are willing to try to beat and cheat the academic system.
    4. Persons are willing to recognize such credentials in others.
     
  2. Nova In University

    Nova In University New Member

    Nova International University is a Great University, Offering World-class Education!
    My Name is Gregoire Nleme
    I am the founder of Nova International University. I will find and when necessary develop good faculty. I owe to the public and to customer a great level of transparency.
    I have 20 years of experiences in manufacturing management, quality assurance, engineering practice, product development, business strategy, and entrepreneurship. I was a chattered engineering Consultant in Paris, France, an ASQ Certified Quality Auditor from 1999 to 2011, and I have been a certified Six Sigma Black Belt since June 23, 2003. I am completed or coached on more than 50 Black Belts and Green Belt projects. Here is my Linkedin profile : https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=50116744&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile and here is my Betond.com profile Gregoire Nleme | Infographic | Career Portfolio | Beyond.com
    I have published three thesis in the past (Ecole Nationale des Ponts et Chaussee-Automobile Renault, and University of Paris-Ecole Nationale des Arts et Metiers (ENSAM).
    I just published an article in the International Journal of Management (see this link http://www.theijm.com/vol4issue2/2.518.pdf ) and another article was approved in March 2015 by the Online Journal of Social Sciences Research, which I may transfer to a different journal to reduce cost. I will be publishing every two months for the remaining months of 2015 because I have many articles ready.

    My Educational Background
    BS Applied Mathematics, University Paul Sabatier (Toulouse III), Toulouse, France.
    Maitrise Applied Mathematics (a degree obtained one year after the BS), University Paul Sabatier (Toulouse III), Toulouse, France
    DEA (master degree) Numerical Analysis, University Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI), Paris, France
    DEA (master degree) Robotics, University of Paris and ENSAM.
    Degree of Engineer (Master of Engineering level), Ecole des Ponts et Chaussees, Paris France
    MS System Engineering in Manufacturing Systems , Oakland University, Rochester, MI
    MS Industrial Administration, Purdue University West Lafayette, IN (now One-Year MBA)
    Doctorate of Business Administration Candidate, ABD, Walden University as of 2015. I may finish the doctorate at Nova International University to reduce cost.

    The University is not operative yet with degree offering as of July 24, 2015 but will be starting September 7, 2015. I am still waiting for securing the Minnesota , Pennsylvania, and the Wyoming approvals. The university is registered as an LLC in Haiwaii (Nova International University LLC) with the certificate of incorporation: `0401201546042 7/2010, filed on April 1, 2015 and approved on April 11, 2015 by the Hawaii Secretary of State.
    To receive accreditation from a CHEA or a USDE authorized accreditation agency, the university has to operate for at least two years. To ensure quality, we are applying for ASIC accreditation and for recognition by the Cambridge Management Association (which also leads to recognition by the Oxford Management Association). We will also apply for IACBE (which is possible for start-up universities) by September 2015, because applying by September 2015 helps reduce the cost of IACBE accreditation at face value. `I will also have my engineering programs reviewed by ABET. We are improving the website progressively.
    This is no fake University. I listed a few syllabi of course on the website as an illustration of the teaching. ASIC and IACBE accreditations; and state approval will make our degree programs valid, enable our students to transfer credits in most universities worldwide, and enable their degrees to be recognized in all the 180s countries worldwide. More, by having the university programs all approved in Cameroon and having at least one teacher residing in Cameroon, the degree will be certified by a country (Cameroon) beyond the USA and will be valid. We do not want to be associated with unaccredited Universities or with degree mills at all.
    Starting July 28 2015, the university will offer webinars, and certificates a week later. The certificate will be authorized by the State of Minnesota. Ensuring authorization by three states and accreditation by ASIC and IACBE will lead to approval by at list 28 states in the USA. We selected Pennsylvania, Minnesota, and Wyoming because I reside in Minnesota and two other states review the programs thoroughly at minimum cost.
    Please address any other question at [email protected]
    I hope my lines above convince you of the quality of our programs.
    Regards,
    Gregoire Nleme
     
  3. Nova In University

    Nova In University New Member

    Humility is needed
    Nova International University is a Great University, Offering World-class Education!
    My Name is Gregoire Nleme
    I am the founder of Nova International University. I will find and when necessary develop good faculty. I owe to the public and to customer a great level of transparency.
    I have 20 years of experiences in manufacturing management, quality assurance, engineering practice, product development, business strategy, and entrepreneurship. I was a chattered engineering Consultant in Paris, France, an ASQ Certified Quality Auditor from 1999 to 2011, and I have been a certified Six Sigma Black Belt since June 23, 2003. I am completed or coached on more than 50 Black Belts and Green Belt projects. Here is my Linkedin profile : https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=50116744&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile and here is my Betond.com profile Gregoire Nleme | Infographic | Career Portfolio | Beyond.com
    I have published three thesis in the past (Ecole Nationale des Ponts et Chaussee-Automobile Renault, and University of Paris-Ecole Nationale des Arts et Metiers (ENSAM).
    I just published an article in the International Journal of Management (see this link http://www.theijm.com/vol4issue2/2.518.pdf ) and another article was approved in March 2015 by the Online Journal of Social Sciences Research, which I may transfer to a different journal to reduce cost. I will be publishing every two months for the remaining months of 2015 because I have many articles ready.

    My Educational Background
    BS Applied Mathematics, University Paul Sabatier (Toulouse III), Toulouse, France.
    Maitrise Applied Mathematics (a degree obtained one year after the BS), University Paul Sabatier (Toulouse III), Toulouse, France
    DEA (master degree) Numerical Analysis, University Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI), Paris, France
    DEA (master degree) Robotics, University of Paris and ENSAM.
    Degree of Engineer (Master of Engineering level), Ecole des Ponts et Chaussees, Paris France
    MS System Engineering in Manufacturing Systems , Oakland University, Rochester, MI
    MS Industrial Administration, Purdue University West Lafayette, IN (now One-Year MBA)
    Doctorate of Business Administration Candidate, ABD, Walden University as of 2015. I may finish the doctorate at Nova International University to reduce cost.

    The University is not operative yet with degree offering as of July 24, 2015 but will be starting September 7, 2015. I am still waiting for securing the Minnesota , Pennsylvania, and the Wyoming approvals. The university is registered as an LLC in Haiwaii (Nova International University LLC) with the certificate of incorporation: `0401201546042 7/2010, filed on April 1, 2015 and approved on April 11, 2015 by the Hawaii Secretary of State.
    To receive accreditation from a CHEA or a USDE authorized accreditation agency, the university has to operate for at least two years. To ensure quality, we are applying for ASIC accreditation and for recognition by the Cambridge Management Association (which also leads to recognition by the Oxford Management Association). We will also apply for IACBE (which is possible for start-up universities) by September 2015, because applying by September 2015 helps reduce the cost of IACBE accreditation at face value. `I will also have my engineering programs reviewed by ABET. We are improving the website progressively.
    This is no fake University. I listed a few syllabi of course on the website as an illustration of the teaching. ASIC and IACBE accreditations; and state approval will make our degree programs valid, enable our students to transfer credits in most universities worldwide, and enable their degrees to be recognized in all the 180s countries worldwide. More, by having the university programs all approved in Cameroon and having at least one teacher residing in Cameroon, the degree will be certified by a country (Cameroon) beyond the USA and will be valid. We do not want to be associated with unaccredited Universities or with degree mills at all.
    Starting July 28 2015, the university will offer webinars, and certificates a week later. The certificate will be authorized by the State of Minnesota. Ensuring authorization by three states and accreditation by ASIC and IACBE will lead to approval by at list 28 states in the USA. We selected Pennsylvania, Minnesota, and Wyoming because I reside in Minnesota and two other states review the programs thoroughly at minimum cost.
    Please address any other question at [email protected]
    I hope my lines above convince you of the quality of our programs.
    Regards,
    Gregoire Nleme
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    In my own opinion this statement is false. Assuming this is a legitimate startup endeavor it still has not awarded a single degree, completed a single class or enrolled a single student. With that in mind I'd say it's beyond hyperbole to say it's "a Great University" and to say that it offers a world-class education is simply untrue because it's actually not offering anything at present and what is allegedly going to be offered has not been evaluated by anyone whose opinion counts in such matters. Elsewhere on this site we have a thread related to Nations University. They are a start-up that appears to be succeeding in a way that you hope to succeed. I didn't think they'd succeed but they seem to be doing well. Maybe you will too but until you actually do something and until you actually prove that you are legitimate and offering a quality product there will be many people, myself included, who will retain a hefty amount of doubt and skepticism. With that in mind, here's my first question. Considering that your school is completely unknown, unproven and that there are any number of alternatives located all over the world, why should anyone take the risk of spending their valuable time and money with your school?
     
  5. Nova In University

    Nova In University New Member


    Lawsuits are authorized in the US and are necessary when wrong is done. Suing a corporation is not synonym of improper character.
    You cannot call Nova International University a degree mill when the university has not delivered any degree or even any class yet. I am inviting you to attend our future webinars. I thank God for finding these postings. Freedom of speech is the law not defamation. Defamation means making a false statements about an organization or a person and that potential customers or partners because of such statements decide not to do business with the organization. You have written a lot which is completely incorrect about myself Gregoire Nleme and Nova International University and I reserve my right for legal actions if needed.
     
  6. Koolcypher

    Koolcypher Member

    I like your way of thinking. As a matter of fact at 41 I'm a world-class athlete getting ready to compete at the next Olympics.

    My background:

    I've been practicing sports since I was a wee lad on my Atari 2600. I soon found out that I was too good for the Atari and moved to the NES where I conquered Mike Tyson, beat Larry Bird on a game of basketball, batted .455 on Bases Loaded (a baseball sim game), pitched not one, but three perfect games, and had a .091 ERA. I have amazing hunting skills proven by my amazing score in Duck Hunt. I'm so good in that game that even the dog does not laugh at me (if you understand this, kudos to you). I'm a great swimmer, I played Stadium Games with my NES, Karateka, and Kung FU, I also killed vampires with Castlevania. And this was as at an era when vampires where not cool. Sadly, I was too good for my NES and went onto greener pastures, namely Genesis and SNES, where I became more of a bad ass. Heck, I even rode dinosaurs, how cool is that? Bo Jackson had nothing on me. I've mastered hockey, baseball, football, soccer, college football, college basketball, and basketball. Every feat has been well documented by my record keepers, namely the folks at EA, Microsoft (Xbox360), and Sony (PS3, PS4). So you see is only a matter of time that I conquered the world. Heck I've saved it countless times, far too many to list here. I'll list a few; Call of Duty, Gears of Wars, Contra, Uncharted, Assassins Creed, Halo, Destiny and so on. So I'm a qualified bad ass. As a result I'm looking for sponsors, I you are willing to send me, i'm cheap, $500 bucks a month. I promise to wear your logo on my jersey at the Olympics. That way you will see the name of your university in all its glory. What say you? :fing02:
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That's your choice. But when doing something as complex as starting a new institution, nothing is more precious than time, so if you show that you believe that the best use of your time is to sue people who make skeptical statements about your institution, it will be very difficult for people to take you seriously.
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Do you offer it yet?

    I am concerned about statements on your website that claim you meet the standards for accrediting bodies that, in fact, do not accredit your school.

    The term 'Great University' is not controlled or restricted, so it is hard to judge. Your school does not appear in any world ranking with which I am familiar. What makes it a 'great' university?

    You do not have a doctorate yourself, nor are you in the process of earning one, assuming the profile is correct. How then, are you able to "develop good faculty"?

    Also, I see no other faculty listed on your website. May we know who you have teaching and researching for Nova International University? As someone who does not hold a doctorate, I have to assume you will not be guiding doctoral students, nor will you confer doctorates yourself?
    Very refreshing. I will ask for and look forward to that.
    Of course, none of that has anything to do with designing, setting up, and running a university. Who, other than yourself, will be doing these things?
    What is the nature of these journals? I cannot find them in any of the electronic libraries I have access to (from four universities). There is an International Journal of Management available from several sources, but it is a different one than you cite (different ISSN). The other journal doesn't appear either. I see both online, but if their not published by a reliable and known publisher, it raises questions. Please clarify.
    Very impressive. I am concerned, however, with the last entry. Your LinkedIn profile indicates you are no longer a student at Walden (as of 2013), but you say you're a candidate for the degree. Please clarify. As I'm sure you know, one cannot be a candidate for a degree one is not actively pursuing.

    Also concerning would be the validity of a degree awarded to you by a school you yourself created. Who will guide your studies and who will confer the degree? How will you maintain a necessary 'firewall' between your role as university founder and university student?
    I'm sure you know that being incorporated in no way confers university status to your operation. So, as I understand it, you do not yet operate the school.

    How, then, has it become a "Great University" when it does not yet operate? On what basis do you make this assessment?

    Why do you require state approvals in those three states? Are you planning to operate the university in all three?
    Your website makes several forward-looking statements about how it already meets the requirements of several recognized accreditors. Please tell us how it manages to do that without yet operating? The conundrum you imply--having to operate legitimately without recognized accreditation--is a tough one. Please explain how you have managed to overcome it.
    Assuming this is the case, none of these forms of recognition accredits the school as a degree-granting institution. I'll leave it to others to assess (a) the meaning of earning these forms of recognition and (b) the likelihood your school will achieve these.
    I certainly never made such an assertion. It is difficult to ascertain, however, just how much of what you've promised has come to fruition. But I've asked many questions and I look forward to your responses.
    Of course, as you know, a syllabus is merely the intended content of a course, not its conduct (teaching). It's the difference between having a recipe for an apple pie and actually having an apple pie.
    This is not correct. None of those forms of recognition will impact the validity of your degrees, nor the transferability of your credits. These do not make your operation a recognized university. In the U.S., institutional accreditation does that. None of these bodies can confer that. Please clarify.
    If you are recognized as a university by a national government, you can begin the process of being recognized as a university elsewhere. But it is not so simple. In the U.S., for example, students would have to have their degrees and transcripts evaluated by a foreign credential evaluation service in order to use them in most academic and many occupational settings. But I agree such recognition would be a positive step forward. Unfortunately, your operation does not yet have that. You remain with a number of such forward-looking statements about so many areas where there is no observable evidence that you can or will meet those requirements. I'm not saying you can't. But unless I'm missing something, you haven't, nor have you demonstrated any capability to do so. If there is such progress, please support the transparency you suggest and tell us about it.
    This is very good to hear. But yours will be an unaccredited university for a significant period of time, as your own posts acknowledges.
    Again, assurances about forms of recognition you do not yet have. Some might have concerns that this could mislead less-sophisticated potential students.
    Generally speaking, this is not done. A school will obtain authority to operate in the state in which it is domicile. Some states require that satellite campuses operating in their states also pursue and obtain authority. But in terms of institutional legitimacy, being authorized to operate in 28 states is exactly the same as being authorized to operate in one.
    I would look forward to that.

    I would suggest that, for now, Gertrude Stein's assessment of Oakland would be apropos here.
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I agree. If you have been wronged, you should seek legal redress. What was the outcome of the Ford case? I see the Walden case is still ongoing with an upcoming court hearing (August 5th). The outcome of your case will be of great interest to many readers on this board. Please share the outcome.
     
  10. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    AV8R,

    Thanks for the name idea. I think I am going to come up with my previous schools to combine them for a new fake diploma school, and will be operating in my garage.

    Georgetown University + Southern Methodist University = Georgetown Southern University locates in Georgetown, Texas. Or Cornell University + Harvard University = Corvard University.
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I'm not an expert in military stuff, never been in the military at all. I know some people in the military, mostly the Navy, and of course there are x military people all over the place but despite all that I don't know much about the military or war but I'm really pretty sure that using teargas in warfare is against a number of international treaties. I just thought that Mr. Nieme should know that. Just in case.
     
  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Show me one word in here which is not accurate, Mr. Nleme. (Except, possibly, for the statement that you are working on a doctorate at Walden. As we both know, that's in the past.)

    Also, this is of no real importance to me, but it might be of some to you: please note I (Johann) never called Nova Southeastern a diploma mill in this thread. I did state my opinion that you possibly believe you can bring all these sweeping statements come true - such as Federal Aid by October 15. I don't believe you can and we are both entitled to our opinions. - and I stick by that opinion. A final quote from me, if I may:

    "I'm sure even this person I regard as litigious knows better than to threaten or pursue legal action here, for linking to free, openly available public records ... or for what someone is thinking."

    J.
     
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  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Corrections needed:

    (1) "Please note that I (Johann) never called Nova International a diploma mill in this thread."
    (2) "I did state my opinion that you possibly believe you can bring all these sweeping statements into being." or:
    (3) "I did state my opinion that you possibly believe you can make all these sweeping statements come true.

    That's better. :smile:

    J
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Another thing. The website says the school is "registered in Wyoming." In this forum, you tell us it isn't. You state it's a Hawaii LLC and you have not yet secured Wyoming's permission. Wyoming's requirements are different from Hawaii's. As I said, Wyoming (since 2006) requires that schools operating in that state be RA, NA or have candidate status for either.

    Too many inconsistencies here, Mr. Nleme. FAR too many. As I said before, I wish you success with your Cameroon accreditation. Perhaps, if you need assistance, St. Monica's University can help you with that.

    J.
     
  15. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    I assume you mean the Cambridge Association of Management, CAM, and the Oxford Association of Management, OXIM. Interesting choice, why not the Quality Assurance Commission, QAC, too while you're at it?
     
  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Final Score: Nleme 3 - Johann 0

    I agree. I never said it was.

    If you say so....OK by me. Others may disagree. I never did call your school a degree mill. My contribution about degree mills was a link to a site about the Axact scandal in Pakistan. Object: informing a reader, who thought degree mills were dead, about those schools which are definitely degree mills. Nothing to do with Nova International - threads get sidetracked.

    Yes - false statements. As far as I can see, I didn't make any. But if you STILL think I did, I'll take my statements back. Any or all of them. And linking to public records is not defamation -- not anything, in fact.

    (Sigh.) All this talk of lawsuits makes me realize that I should take another "sabbatical." It does not frighten me but I do find it upsetting and at my age (72) I don't need to stress myself dealing with threats of any kind. As I said, If anything I wrote STILL offends you -- then I take it ALL back -- every word of it, if need be, right now. If that is still not enough - then although I can't erase my posts, you could ask those who manage the forum to remove them. I would have no objection. I do not know whether or not they will comply - I have no control over that.

    I still love all my friends at DI and this incident is none of your making. I will probably visit the forum again in 2016, but I can't really see what use I would be here. I will likely leave this field to those who are not "gun-shy" about expressing their knowledge or informed opinion. For me - it's just not rewarding any more. Rather the reverse.

    Goodbye.

    J.
     
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  17. Koolcypher

    Koolcypher Member

    Hi Johann,

    No need to leave. You've already apologize to this clown, yeah I've said it, clown. (Sue me if you want to, I'll tell you where to stick that shiny piece of paper). At any rate, you are a valued member of the forum, and at your age you do bring a wealth of knowledge. :yup: So do not let this person get to you, stick around, we have your back mate.
     
  18. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    If Nova International hasn't awarded any degrees or delivered any classes, I agree that it's not possible to call it a degree mill. I have a question though: if no degrees have been awarded and no classes have been given, no students are admitted yet, no faculty has been recruited, the university is unaccredited and unrecognised, what, exactly, is it that makes it a university?
     
  19. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    A private business without client/revenue...except looking for revenue for lawsuits.
     
  20. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    It's a concept of a thought of a notion of a university. It's an abstraction of a consideration, a chimera of a vagary of a dream.

    Don't harsh Gregoire's buzz.:headache:
     

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