Nova International University

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  1. mbwa shenzi

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    Here's a university I came across while doing some research for an upcoming workshop. Nova International University - [link removed by moderator] -, possibly in the process of becoming accredited by ASIC in the UK, applying for IACBE accreditation in September, registered in the state of Wyoming and also looking at the possibility of securing recognition from the Ministry of Education in Cameroon.

    All of that is of course interesting - at least to me - in itself, but I found it even more interesting that there seems to have been another Nova International University around in Florida about 20 years ago. Does anybody have any information to share about that?
     
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  2. AV8R

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    "Excellence since 2015" ...or so it says on the website.

    :haha:

    That website looks like it was made by a 14 year old learning web design. It's hosted on a cheap shared hosting account (Host Gator). The whole thing screams scam.
     
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    There was a Nova University in Florida from the 1960s. In 1994 it merged with the Southeastern University for Health Sciences to form Nova Southeastern University. NSU has long been a leader in distance learning.
     
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    It looks like whoever is behind "Nova International" just took the names of two legit schools and smashed them together to create this scam.

    Nova Southeastern University + Florida International University = Nova International University.

    *sigh*
     
  5. Rich Douglas

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    ASIC recognition does not meet what some of us call 'generally accepted accreditation principles (GAAP--stolen from accounting).' Its recognition does not mean the school will be recognized as a degree-granting authority on par with accredited schools here in the U.S. It is primarily used to weed out bogus operations used for immigration scams.
     
  6. John Bear

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    ASIC accredits, among many others, Charisma University, Warnborough University (I believe it long ago became Farnborough College), the University of Atlanta, Akamai, American Liberty, and the brand new -- apparently accepted first students this May -- Ubiquity University (authority from the Grand Caymans, office in California, phone in Las Vegas). One wonders how you accredit a school before any students have gone through the program.
     
  7. TEKMAN

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    Wow that is my school for Ph.D, I guess I am dropping out to apply to University of Leicester's Ph.D in Management. Thanks Dr. Douglas for the admission guidance, now I have to get my research proposal done.
     
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    You're welcome. (TEKMAN and I exchanged detailed info by PM, but I'm happy to help any poster in a PM or here in the threads.)
     
  9. Johann

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    The school is registered in Wyoming, its site says. Since 2006, Wyoming law has required universities there to have RA or NA institutional accreditation, or be candidates for such. Otherwise, they cannot operate in the State. ASIC is British - so it's on CHEA's list of overseas accrediting agencies. Not American. Not RA. Not NA. IACBE accredits business programs, not schools. Ergo, not institutional accreditation.

    This university says it meets the standards for all of ABET, ACBSP, AACSB, IACBE, HLC, DEAC and ACICS. :shock: To start with, most of the programmatic accreditors require American schools to have US Regional accreditation - nothing less - or they cannot apply.

    Despite these astounding qualifications, the school has applied for accreditation in Cameroon. I wish it every success there. :smile:

    J
     
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    You got your Nova's mixed up. Nova International is NOT Nova Southeastern University. Nova Southeastern is a legit school in Davie, FL with a beautiful campus.
     
  11. Johann

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    I don't think TEKMAN has mixed his Nova's up , although I fully understand why anyone might think so. When I started reading his post, "Wow that is my school" I thought TEKMAN was joking - saying in jest that Nova International looked so wonderful he wanted to study there. Nope. :smile: He's done doctoral work at Nova Southeastern - so how could he mix Nova's? Apparently, TEKMAN chose this thread to thank Dr. Douglas for his PM advice about admission to U. of Leicester in the U.K. No harm done - none at all. We needed a break. :smile:

    Getting back to Nova International -- the school says it hopes to begin offering Federal Financial Aid around October! It looks like the school administration is unaware the uni must be RA or NA , before there's any chance whatsoever of that. Title IV is not a college football trophy! I am amazed at the gaps in knowledge here, regarding operation of American universities. It is particularly astonishing, considering the Founder of this University states he has earned two U.S. degrees - Oakland U. (Mich.) and Purdue. He is also currently working on a doctorate at Walden. Surely with that kind of exposure...

    Perhaps We should call -- maybe in November -- and ask for the FAFSA code. :smile:

    In case you are still incredulous (and who could blame you) here is the exact quote from the website: "We do not yet give the opportunity for U.S. citizens and U.S. residents to apply for Federal Financial Aid. We will do so after we apply for ASIC accreditation and IACBE accreditation. We should offer financial aid by October 15, 2015. "

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    OOPS - apology to Koolcypher. Rereading, I guess TEKMAN may have been in a hurry and missed the Nova vs. Nova difference after all. My bad. Tried to alter my post-- too late. Very embarrassed- as I should be. :sad:
    No changes re: Nova International, though.

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    A lack of knowledge by the operators is certainly one possible explanation for that forward-looking statement.

    Taking advantage of a lack of knowledge on the part of the customers is another.
     
  14. TEKMAN

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    Oh, I do not mix up with Nova Southeastern University vs Nova International University. The reason I am dropping out the program because I screwed up last semester due to family problem. My children were removed from my ex-wife and I by Texas Child Protective Services; and I discovered she had an affair plan to leave me when the time is right. Also, she mistreated and neglected the children when I was at work. She told the local authority and Child Protective Services that I am mentally unstable and have PTSD because I am a Marine Veteran. After I discovered she planned to file for the divorce to ensure I don't get the custody of my children because she is looking at 25% (about $45,000 per year) of my $180,000.00 salary for 2 children under Texas child support.

    After the entire painful process ( $20,000 legal fees, psychiatric evaluation, parental classes, individual counseling, drug tests, and etc.) went through and pending for the divorce. I am ending up with children custody. Therefore, I'll be a single dad with two toddlers. I am looking at the program at University of Leicester because it is a research based, which requires only two residencies. If I continue the program at Nova Southeastern University, I have to repeat some courses because of the problem of last semester. Which I have to attend at least 5 more residencies.
     
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    Oh man, I'm really sorry to hear there was so much commotion involved. But having met her, however briefly, I'm very confident they're best off with you.
     
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    Not to worry, Johann. We still love you. I've made two mistakes myself: the first in 1992, the second in 2004.:smokin:
     
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    My optometrist (for the past 15 years) earned his DO (doctor of optometry) from Nova Southeastern University.
     
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    I thought the days of diploma mills were long gone. Seems that some are bent on still trying.
     
  19. Johann

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    Both are always valid possibilities. In this case, let me introduce a third: delusion, or at the very least, misplaced belief. Someone may actually think that he can really make all the fancy promises on the Nova International website come true. Just a layman's opinion - I'm no expert. DI readers can look at the facts and make up their own minds. Here they are:

    The founder of Nova International U. lives in Minnesota. His website says he is pursuing a DBA at Walden. I don't know how that's going these days - as he sued Walden U. over civil rights. He has also sued Ford Motor Co., his former employer. Here are some links to publicly available sources.

    His website: Novasys ConsultingAdvisory in Adpative Strategies and Operation Excellence - Strategy Blog
    The Walden lawsuit: https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/6874676/Nleme_v_Walden_University
    The Ford lawsuit: http://ia801007.us.archive.org/12/items/gov.uscourts.mnd.133340/gov.uscourts.mnd.133340.1.1.pdf (Googled it.)

    I think this last is particularly enlightening reading. :smile:

    I'm sure even this person I regard as litigious knows better than to threaten or pursue legal action here, for linking to free, openly available public records ... or for what someone is thinking. :smile:

    J
     
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  20. Johann

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    (Sigh) I'd like to think that, too, Brian. Unfortunately, I can't. There's just too much money in it. A couple of billion dollars a year, say those in the know. For a now-unraveling scheme of well over 100 degree mills, fake accreditors, etc., you might want to see this thread:

    http://www.degreeinfo.com/general-distance-learning-discussions/50302-fake-diplomas-pakistan.html

    Some (mills) are bent? Indeed they are - VERY bent. (In the British sense, i.e. crooked) :smile:

    J.
     
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