New York democratic socialist mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani 'globalize the intifada' ?

I'm not calling him anything, I don't know the guy. I'm just relating the news, opinions and concerns in my community and some politicians about his nomination.
Furthermore, I never heard or seen him advocating violent Jihad.
Conservative figures have labeled Mamdani as a “jihadist” or “terrorist sympathizer,”
Activist and Jewish leaders such as Comptroller Brad Lander and CAIR have strongly condemned the campaign of hate directed at him.

As to my opinion, today, and it wasn't like this before 2023. Today, someone who supports the Palestinian cause, usually appears to me (I know it's not always the case) as someone who supports the destruction of the state of Israel, and genocide of Israelis.
I'm not saying he is like that, but have my suspicions. I will be glad to be proven wrong.

 

I forgot to add - I read that Zohran Mamdani did co‑found the Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) chapter at Bowdoin College, a pro‑Palestinian student organization that many critics describe as “anti‑Israel” and that has drawn scrutiny over alleged antisemitic rhetoric, and their support of Hamas.
Mamdani helped establish the chapter during his college years. A red flag for me - Mamdani was deeply involved in the pro‑Palestinian campus movement through SJP.

 

I don't know Mamdani. I really don't care about Mamdani. Democrats being concerned about Mamdani, not liking Mamdani, or even saying that he should condemn this or that is also something I don't care about. They did not say that Mamdani endorsed extremism against Jews. That was what you lied about. You falsely claimed that congressmen Phillips said that that Mamdani endorsed extremism against Jews. I tried to be polite at first saying that Phillips hadn't said that, at least not in the article you linked. You just tried to change the subject and continued your false assertions about Phillips and then added Carville to you falsely claiming that they said Mamdani endorsed extremism against Jews. I don't need to be polite anymore. You had plenty of chances to correct your misstatement if that was what it was. It is now fair IMHO to just say you just lied.

If you watch the video of Mamdani, he goes on for a time about antisemitism being bad. Should Mamdani condemn that phrase that I never heard before? You know what I don't care about that as long as he's telling the truth that he doesn't like antisemitism and would stop antisemitism to the best of his ability if he becomes mayor.

 

Interesting article about the Progressive Jewish strategists who helped Mumdani win the democratic primary.

https://forward.com/news/753505/jews-zohran-mamdani-election-nyc-mayor/

 

This is a red flag for me and my community - I forgot to add - I read that Zohran Mamdani did co‑found the Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) chapter at Bowdoin College, a pro‑Palestinian student organization that many critics describe as “anti‑Israel” and that has drawn scrutiny over alleged antisemitic rhetoric, and their support of Hamas.
Mamdani helped establish the chapter during his college years. A red flag for me - Mamdani was deeply involved in the pro‑Palestinian campus movement through SJP.

Every candidate makes statements and say things to gain votes and support, the question is what are the actions taken?
As the biblical quote, judge them by the fruits.
Public opinion in NY— is complex and varies widely depending on political beliefs, media influences, and personal experiences.
The city’s challenges — crime, housing, transport — are longstanding and multi-causal.

 

That's one sentence is a mike drop, and speaks volumes, !!!!!

 

Is this another example of you making up stuff and then blaming the words on others? I don't know but that seems to be your pattern. I'll just ignore this statement until I hear more from someone that is not so unreliable.

 

A large number of conservative zionists say any support of Palestinians is inherently anti-Israel and antisemitic.

But this is an argument almost not worth going into because the discussion is about Mumdani being antisemitic. He is trying to form guilt by association, but also using here-say and an appeal to authority, prejudice, and fear to say the group is somehow dangerous.

Mind you this is from the same conservative playbook who only a few years ago made fun of these college students organizations as “snowflakes”, “safe spaces”, and “SJWs”. Only now these same groups actually being rewritten as dangerous. It is just a presentism bias.

 

I read the SJP article on Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Justice_in_Palestine

It was an interesting article. The organization has been around since 1993. There are 350 chapters across the country. Two or three of the chapters apparently did release a statement in support of Hamas after October 7. That is unfortunate but shouldn't mean the whole organization is antisemitic. Although the ADL did the following

quote:
On October 25, the Anti-Defamation League, in collaboration with the Brandeis Center, sent an open letter to over 200 colleges urging them to investigate SJP chapters for supporting Hamas. The ADL wrote that many SJP chapters endorsed Hamas's attack on Israel, potentially violating laws against material support for terror groups. SJP denies these claims, asserting that independent protests for Palestinian rights do not constitute support for terrorism.[53]

The article didn't say anything about any response, leaving me with the impression that maybe not a whole lot was found?

Although it does say later on,

quote:
The Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs published a book, Students for Justice in Palestine Unmasked, which included many instances of the group reportedly supporting antisemitism and violence and connections between the group and U.S.-designated terror groups.[62]

It's unclear whether the book's "many instances" were really SJP group related or more just members in the group.

 

The ADL lacks credibility with any of their claims as they have basically turned into a Pro-Israel group. They have been pushing the false claim that antizionism is antisemitic. Now they count instances of criticism of Israel as antisimetic attacks. They have also liberally applied “Pro-Hamas” to people criticizing Israel or defending Palestinians. More recently they defended Elon Musk after doing his infamous “Sieg Heil” at Trump’s inauguration.

 

I generally like the ADL. They were formed originally to fight antisemitism and just branched out a little from there. They have always been very pro-Israel.

Here's a good thing they did, for example.

Quote:
In 2022, the ADL criticized the government formed by Benjamin Netanyahu in his sixth term, which included representatives from the far-right Otzma Yehudit and Religious Zionist Party, and their leaders, Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich. The ADL said that including these parties and lawmakers "would run counter to Israel's founding principles, and impact its standing, even among its strongest supporters."[122][123]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League

 

Awsome, because readers see how you are reserving to a tactic of "shoot the messanger" when you can't handle the truth.
You attack os to discredit the messenger, when articles clearly state what you don't like.

 

Many SJP chapters and allied groups are known to chant or display slogans like “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.” This phrase implies elimination of Israel, while nieve descived people say it expresses liberation and equality in a single democratic state.

While some criticize Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition for including controversial far-right figures, it's important to separate genuine policy concerns from politically motivated attacks.
Yes, the ADL expressed discomfort with certain figures in Bibi’s government. But that’s a far cry from supporting groups like SJP, which openly use slogans such as “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” — a phrase widely understood as calling for the elimination of Israel. Supporters try to frame it as a call for “liberation and equality,” but it clearly implies erasing the Jewish state entirely. That’s not about rights — that’s about destruction.

As for Netanyahu, much of the backlash against him from U.S. progressives dates back to his 2015 speech to Congress, where he strongly opposed President Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran.
That speech disrupted the Obama administration’s narrative and embarrassed the White House on its own turf.
Ever since, like Bill and other liberals echo here, certain political circles have been relentless in targeting Netanyahu — not because of values, but because he dared to challenge their agenda on a global stage. Suddenly via Israel left campagn, trials popped up and persecutions, its still going on, and unclear how ot will end, some caces ssem to collapsing, maybe the case with accepting gufts like sigars will get somewhere, or be closed?

Let’s not confuse criticisms of Israel’s coalition politics with what SJP promotes: not coexistence, but confrontation, delegitimization, and often open hostility to Israel’s very existence.

 

I dont see how any of this supports your thesis that Mumdani is a threat to Jewish New Yorkers.

 

It has nothing to do with any messages. You make false statements. The example in this thread is that you falsely claimed Congressman Phillips said that Mamdani had endorsed extremism against Jews.

 

The “Shoot the Messenger” defense is for people delivering unwelcomed or bad news, not as a defense for failing to properly vet sources one uses to defend their argument.

 

In some cases, maybe, but in this case it's exactly what happens.

 

Your interpretation, but I proved you did selective reading, you still claimed it but intentionally cut the rest of the sentence, I didn't claim what you said.
Selective or intentional distortion from you.

 

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This is an entirely different argument now. It no longer has anything to deal with him being dangerous for Jewish people.