NCU is now taught by 100% doctorate faculty

I don't think any accredited degree would be worthless, but since we engage into distance learning. The best value out of the degree would be from school with reputation; besides, choosing school with with B&M campus as possible to avoid any criticism.

 

Some people never learn. I guess unless you spend two years and $85,000 listening to some goof drone on about his golf game your degree is worthless.

 

I do somewhat agree but also think "worthless" is over stating what could be said as "possibly having less utility" or "be subject to more criticism".

 

But...this is the way we have always done it...why change...change bad...status quo good....:laugh:

 

This hits a sore spot I have about the distance learning prejudices I have encountered over the last few years. Why should I sit through all that just because someone else "had to"? And certainly, why should I do things the same way when there are now statistically validated models that prove learning can be done well otherwise?

 

Because that is the way it is, now stop with any non-traditional / forward thinking you damn rebel-with-a-cause.

 

Maybe I will start to label posts as "worthless" if that is the new definition!

 

I'm from south Florida and Nova had a terrible (and false) degree mill reputation in the early years. People bad mouthed Nova without justification because they offered non-traditional degrees. As the years have gone by, Nova has finally become accepted as being legitimate by most people.

 

I can't say that I think that this is a bad thing but I will say that I had a little pile of instructors who stopped at the Masters level and they were very smart, accomplished and talented teachers.

 

In the 1970/80's Nova received bad publicity due mainly to the EdD/DBA and MS-Education/MBA degrees offered at cluster sites. The Miami Herald published a series of not very favorable articles on the cluster programs. People in traditional education were the biggest critics intent on defending the status-quo. Some of the most vocal critics of Nova's cluster programs were Nova traditional faculty.

I investigated the possibility of attending Nova's School of Oceanography around that time. Not a single person I spoke with had a bad thing to say about the program. My most recent eye exam was given by a graduate of Nova Southeastern University College of Optometry.

 

I knew someone who completed a masters from USF in the early 90's and she said, "Whatever you do, do not go to Nova. It is not a real school". I also took classes at St Pete College in the mid-late 90's and the instructor had an EdD from Nova and some older people thought that was questionable. It has come a long way in reputation. Goes to show that group think is sometimes/often plain wrong.

 

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Wow this is very inspiring.

 

It is ridiculous to call any accredited agree worthless. Many of us mid career adults who seek graduate education online need the credential for a job we already have and the online accredited programs are ideal for us since traveling to B&M schools and working within their schedules is difficult if not impossible, while continuing in our much needed professions. As for For-profit vs. not-for-profit, at the time I chose NCU, the tuition was lower than any not-for-profit school that was available to me that offered the type of program I needed and desired.

It seems these statements (about worthless degrees) are usually made by those who are looking to gain initial employment in new career, or only see that viewpoint when considering a school. And if that career is to be a college professor (and likely many other professions) your best bet is to find a school that is going to be highly known and respected by your potential employer. It was never my goal to be a college professor at a B&M University, but I still have to mention that I applied on a whim after earning my Ph.D. from NCU and was hired at a B&M school. I really don't think they cared where I earned the degree from as long as it was accredited and was a Ph.D. (required for the position).

 

It would be really helpful to have a list of worthless degrees. That way people won't make the wrong choices. Maybe some of our experts could compile that list for us.

 

Well, History has got to top the list, with English as a close second.

 

I was actually kidding Ted I should have said "A list of colleges that produce worthless degrees". I'm sure my colleges would be on somebody's list.

Its hard to get paid for an English or History degree but those are two of my favorite subjects and if I had nothing to do I'd consider studying those again.

 

Nice one Steve. That makes a lot of sense.
If people worry about the prestige of a school based on the people who go there I think of it this way. If NCU's prestige was X before I enrolled, it is X+ryoder after I enrolled
If I went to Harvard it might be X-ryoder