National Consortium Staff College

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  1. BMWGuinness

    BMWGuinness New Member

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    http://www.usndfscom.com/edu_inter.htm

    http://www.usdcpasc.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

     
  2. laferney

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    Add me to the list!

    Add LaFerney to the DIRECTORY Of DISTINGUISHED RECIPIENTS
    Honorary Degrees.
    They gave me one too for military service. ( a Doctor of Humanities)
    They grant Associate, Bachelor degrees, and Masters degrees based on completed FEMA EMI courses and Texas AM courses.
    They make it clear they aren't accredited:
    The knock on them is that the number of credits (courses) are not enough to receive a degree. They count your military and other (CAP/CGA etc)as experience. Since the only colleges you can really parlay the FEMA EMI courses into a degree is Frederick CC and TESC(and only after additional fees and testing, internships etc) the idea is good.
    From their site:
    The NCSC has non-acreditated degree and ceritfication programs in several fields. The purpose of these programs are to recognize significant achievement, experience and training in highly specialized areas. In order to apply for and receive any of these diplomas or certificates you must be a current member of the United States military (Active Duty, Reserves, National Guard, CAP, Coast Guard Aux or a member of Recognized State Guards, State Defense Forces and retired military).
    The Degrees granted by the USDCPASC / NCSC are Non-Traditional and are Specialized Training credentials in nature. The NCSC Degree must not be confused with the traditional Liberal Arts Degree from regular Colleges and Universities. The NCSC Degree program was specifically designed for the purpose of training military personnel so that they might be better equipped with the knowledge and training to enter the Disaster / Emergency Management field at either the Federal, Sate or Local level upon release from active military duty. All Federal, State and Local Disaster Preparedness Agencies (FEMA, Dept. of Homeland Security, TSA and others) are desperate for qualified citizens to fill positions in the Emergency Management field. It is the purpose of this program to help train people for such positions.
    All courses are recognized or accredited by the Government and are available free."
    Many of the posters have taken these courses for electives. This gives you a
    way to consolodate them into some kind of credential. Again unaccredited and on the ODA list. But I like the idea.
    And oh, yeh, insert my name here:
    Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, Washington, DC
    Honorary Doctorate USA, , LaFerney Lakeville, MA.
    Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Anthony Principi, Washington, DC
     
  3. BillDayson

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    http://www.usdcpasc.com/

    This thing has a post office box in Mountain Grove Missouri. So my first question is whether it is operating legally in MO. It mentions a business license, but is it authorized by the state education authorities to award degrees? Somehow I doubt it. It wouldn't qualify for a religious exemption.

    There's a photograph of an impressive building with people walking around in what look like uniforms. But it's almost certainly a picture of something unrelated.

    Google searches or "national consortium staff college" didn't produce any hits on .mil, .gov, or .edu websites.

    But NCSC is on the illegal in Oregon list.

    Here's its parent organization, the self-styled 'United States National Defense Force Support Command' (In bombastic quasi-military style, NDFSCOM).

    Apparently it's one of several civilian "benevolent organizations" that like to dress up in military-style uniforms and occasionally behave as illegal far-right armed militias, intimidating citizens, pretending to be MPs and such. (NDFSCOM denies very emphatically that it does that.)

    http://www.usndfscom.com/usndfscom.htm

    They certainly like to toss around quasi-military jargon though.

    Unfortunately, the real US military doesn't seem to have heard of them. They produced three hits on .gov sites, all listings of private organizations participating in recent 'Disaster Preparedness Month' activities.
     
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    Unless things have changed, I don't think it takes much to get a license to be a "college" or "university" in Missouri. I wonder if they even license schools differently than other businesses....
     
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    Looks like about 83 Republicans and a couple of Democrats on that partial list.

    As long as the dreadful Western States University continues to operate unhampered from its umcampus in Doniphan, MO, it remains pretty clear that Missouri doesn't do much, if anything, in the way of regulating schools.

    Is she officially "Dr. Connie Rice" now?
     
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    I expect that the NDFSCOM brass feel a stronger affinity to Republicans than to Democrats. (The Dems are more more apt to have Marxists cozied up to them.) But I'd be very surprised if any of the politicans who were awarded NCSC honorary degrees have any relationship with the organization. Chances are they aren't even aware of it.
    Near the bottom of Dr. Rice's bio, it states:

    "...and has been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995, the National Defense University in 2002, the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003, the University of Louisville and*Michigan State University in 2004, and Boston College in 2006."

    No mention of an honorary doctorate from the NCSC thing.

    You know... if people actually used honorary degree titles, Dr. Rice would become Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Rice. That's almost as impressive as the gentleman with the curtain rod, but not quite.
     
  8. laferney

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    Melvern Christian and Technical Institute of Kansas?

    The National Consortium Staff College (NCSC) reports to me that they are working to "achieve recognition for our degree program. The NCSC will become part of the Melvern Christian and Technical Institute of Kansas in the future and will be under their accreditation."
    The only problem is I can't find this Institute in Kansas on a Google search or list of colleges in Kansas. (or MO. where the NCSC is ) Does anyone know anything about the Melvern Christian and Technical Institute of Kansas?
     
  9. MichaelGates

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    The National Consortium Staff College now lists Smith Gaither Christian University on it's fake degrees. Its parent organization the 'United States National Defense Force Support Command' is well-known to many of us in the military as a group that is not military, but illegally wears military uniforms. It is a crime to wear military uniforms or something similar to a military uniforms is you are not in the military.

    * United States Code Title 10, Subtitle A, Part II, Chapter 45.
    * United States Code Title 18, Part I, Chapter 33 Sec. 702.
    * United States Code Title 18, Part I, Chapter 33, § 704.

    I regularly ban members of this group from a military discussion forum that I adminstrate for their deceptive comments and practices.
     

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