Moody Bible Institute

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by ericm, Aug 13, 2002.

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  1. ericm

    ericm New Member

    I am interested in obtain a degree either online or via independent studies such as Moody offers. I have read many of the posts about Trinity etc. But I haven't seen alot about Moody. I have learned a lot from this forum about the different between an RA and an unaccredited school. I want an accredited degree that I can complete either online or through independent studies.

    The purpose of the degree is for ministerial purposes and not teaching. I am an ordained minister. My desire is to further educate myself and eventually obtain at least a Masters Degree.

    I applied to Dallas Theological ( they have an extention program in my area) I was denied acceptance. My academic credentials weren't strong enough. I was attempting admissions through a special program for people who don't have their B.A. After being out of school for 20 yrs I didn't do so well on the MAT.

    Any info on Moody, Or any other similar program?
     
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  2. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Moody clearly is excellent, but what is not clear is whether you now are after a masters or a BA. You say you have no BA. (DTS offers no BAs) So you want to do a masters w-out first doing an undergrad degree?

    Have you checked out Jason baker's site?
     
  3. ericm

    ericm New Member

    Moody

    Thanks for the reply Bill. At this point I am willing to get the B.A. first. Moody offers that through D.L. After obtaining the B.A. I could possibly reapply to D.T.S. at a later date. The ulitimate goal is the M.A. or higher from a legitimate school. Moody is also planning on offering the M.A. through D.L. at a later date I understand.
     
  4. Howard

    Howard New Member

    Hi Eric:
    Have you considered going the Australian route? You could do the BA and then the MA, or the BA and the MA at some other university. You might look at the following - they are well known, well regarded schools and the price is exceptional.

    Coolamon University http://www.coolamon.org
    The Centre for Christian Spirituality http://thecentre.com.au
    Charles Sturt University http://csu.edu.au

    Blessings,
    Howard.
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Moody

    First stop should be http://www.bakersguide.com
    Jason lists a large number of Christian degree programs at all levels. The Regionally accredited undergraduate degrees will offer you the most flexibility.

    Another site is http://www.tracs.org
    TRACS is a recognized conservative Christian accrediting agency. Probably a little less flexible if you later decide to go secular or try for say an ATS (Nat Acc) accredited school. I think ATS is a little threatened by TRACS and so you see some ATS schools specifically saying those applying to doctoral programs must be ATS grads at a time when Regionally Accredited schools appear to be becoming more open to Nationally Accredited degrees (University of Oklahoma accepts TRACS credits). My guess is that ATS (liberal through conservative) may be concerned that TRACS may try to encourage conservative Christian schools to move over. TRACS schools include Temple Baptist Seminary, Luther Rice (Charles Stanley's alma mater) and American Christian College & Seminary. LRS & ACCS offer distance learning BA.'s as well as Masters & doctorates.

    A school which is both Regionally Accredited and TRACS is http://www.liberty.edu It has distance learning BA's & Masters.

    As you can see there are many options (including affordable accredited secular schools for bachelors..see Lawrie Millers BA in 4 weeks site).

    North
     
  6. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Re: Moody

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    It sounds best to first finish the BA-at Moody if you like. but I don't think you could do a DL degree from DTS..so you live in dallas? There are DL MA's though. Both RA as Reformed and TRACS as American...others too!

    Good "luck"

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  7. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

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    Howard, you ecumenist, do you really think one who pines away for dallas will consider a Roman Catholic school as sort of a close, second best choice?
     
  8. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Re: Re: Moody

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    Does Lawrie also have a PhD in 8 weeks site?

    It,s a LLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOO
    OOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG road I'm on:rolleyes:
     
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Ph.D. in ?? Weeks

    Actually this very issue was discussed some months ago.

    The average BA is 120 hours and using Lawrie's method can be completed in 4 weeks.

    The average Ph.D. is 60 hours and should be (based on Lawrie's method) completed in approximately 2 weeks. While much of the Ph.D. is research oriented, one would need to factor in additional time for writing and editing, which would probably stretch the completion time to 2 weeks and 2 days.

    This of course is based upon the premise of all things being equal.
     
  10. ericm

    ericm New Member

    Re: Re: Moody

    Bill, I don't live in Dallas but they an extention program in my area, the classes are held at a local church in town, classes are one day weekly with a Friday evening and all day Saturday combo once a month.
    With this format it takes three years to get your Master of Theology, with a Pastoral track.
     
  11. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Moody

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    You must mean an MA in Theology not a ThM as the latter is a four year full time program. "BA, Moody, MA, Dallas"...I like it. Maybe I'll edit my resume below:rolleyes:
     
  12. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Re: Ph.D. in ?? Weeks

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    So Russell, why do you not glomp on that opportunity instead of trying to entice Trinity Sem into reviving the PhD for you?:D

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  13. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: Ph.D. in ?? Weeks

    I missed the deadline, Bill. :(
     
  14. telefax

    telefax Member

    BA at Liberty

    I second the motion regarding Liberty University. Their BA in Religion requires no residency and is only $150 per semester hour. Their Master of Arts in Religion is the same cost, and has two residencies. However, if you have your heart set on Dallas, I understand. That is a fine school.
     
  15. Robert

    Robert New Member

    Moody

    As a graduate of Moody ( MA MIn) i would recommend Moody in a heart beat. The teachers taught with passion and a Love for God.

    Moody is also RA and has a great reputation

    Robert
     
  16. Mike Wallin

    Mike Wallin New Member

    Moody

    I am hoping to get a Degree from Moody in Seesaw Riding and get Ordained by the Knights of White Satin:rolleyes:
     
  17. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Moody

    Okay Mike, I get the Knights in White Satin but what is the Seesaw thing?

    North
     
  18. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Re: Moody

     
  19. levicoff

    levicoff Guest

    Anecdotal...

    Several years ago, The Wittenburg Door, a Christian satire magazine, bestowed its Green Weenie award on the Moody Bible Institute thanks to signs MBI had hanging in its dormatories instructing students on how to handle emergencies. The term emergency was defined on the signs as fire, theft, and glossalalia.

    True story.

    That said, MBI is top notch - they have always been in the forefront of distance education, since back in the days when correspondence was the only format. In fact, the current V.P. of distance ed there was hired a few years ago from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School (TEDS, or the real Trinity, one of the "cadillac" schools of evangelicalism along with Dallas). MBI's course materials and syllabi have been among the most comprehensive of any school, religious or secular, and their reputation is impeccable.

    To compare Moody with Dallas on anything but their doctrinal systems (which are similar, both based on premillenial dispensationalism) is an apples-oranges comparison - Moody is both undergraduate and graduate, while Dallas is strictly graduate. Dallas has traditionally offered only a four-year Th.M. (which combines what is normally thought of as an M.Div. plus the additional year one would spend on a separate Th.M.), and their M.A. programs have been offered on satelite campuses for many years.

    And to compare either school with Trinity (the mill in Newburgh, Indiana) is, of course, like comparing apples and moon rocks - a joke.

    One academic note: Dallas will accept anyone with a bachelor's degree, regardless of the field. If the B.A. is in Bible (from Moody, for example), that means that one's graduate studies will, to an extent, duplicate the undergraduate program. (You can only take first-year Greek in so many ways.) Still, depending on your perspective, you will certainly have an easier time in the DTS M.A. or Th.M. program with a Moody degree than with a secular degree.
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    The usual disclaimer: I never attended Moody, but was a Moody Press author - they published my book Christian Counseling and the Law. I also never taught at DTS, but did teach at a school at which the DTS M.A. program was a satelite offering.
     
  20. Ed Komoszewski

    Ed Komoszewski New Member

    Re: Anecdotal...

    There's no need for duplication.

    I entered DTS with bachelor's degrees in both Bible and Christian Education, and the seminary granted me advanced standing and validated several of its required courses.

    Advanced standing can be obtained by passing standard proficiency exams. The passing of such exams results in the awarding of credit and a reduction in curriculum requirements. Up to one-sixth of the MA or ThM degree can be earned by advanced standing.

    Validation of courses can be obtained by demonstrating significant overlap between required seminary courses and those completed at the undergraduate level. Validation does not result in the awarding of credit or a reduction in curriculum requirements, but it does allow the student to substitute any course offered in the same department.

    If you're looking for the best possible education at DTS, undergraduate work in Bible, theology, etc., at an accredited evangelical school places you in a position of extreme advantage. You are given more flexibility in meeting curriculum requirements, and this allows you to take more advanced electives than the average student. In the case of advanced standing, it can even save you money!
     

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