Management Certificate Recommendations

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  1. OldSage

    OldSage New Member

    My situation: I am in the field of healthcare chaplaincy. I have graduate degrees up to doctorate, and I have various spiritual care, end-of-life, and palliative care certifications. I want to move into chaplaincy directorship. Something I know I need to bolster in my resume is management credentials. I really don't want to do another full degree program (unless it is just some too good to pass up program), but I am open to a shorter certificate program. I know there are a million such programs out there. I am not looking to break the bank, but I also don't want something that is just paper to hang on the wall (as it will probably just go in a folder in a filing cabinet anyway). The program can be in healthcare, non-profit, general management, or some other sort of related field as long as it points towards that director/manager role. Thanks in advance for your recommendations.
     
  2. MiracleWhipz

    MiracleWhipz Member

    As you said there are a million choices, I'd look for one that is cheap and accredited if it was me. Why don't you go do some research and come back with some possible selections and people here can give you feedback? I mean or else everyone will just be shooting fish in a barrel and if you say no because xyz people are wasting their time doing your research.
     
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  3. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    People normally work their way up through seniority and demonstrating that they can lead others. It can start by leading a special project team, subbing for a manager, or being promoted to a supervisory position. If you're not interested in earning a whole management degree, I think experience will be worth more than a short certificate program. There are organizations you can volunteer with, and since they're always short on chaplains, it's pretty easy to get appointed as the head of a local program. I was appointed the IT officer for a volunteer organization because I was the only person with a background in IT. I was appointed as the HR officer with another volunteer organization without any HR experience.
     
  4. OldSage

    OldSage New Member

    I am not looking for in-depth research from people. I'm not asking people to do my work for me. There may just be suggestions off hand from those in the field or programs they are involved in feel they are beneficial. As to experience, I am involved in committees and oversight projects so the practical side is being built upon. There are very few director positions, one per hospital at most. I'm not expecting a certificate to be the magic key to moving up.
     
  5. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Highly recommend Project Management Professional (PMP), highly respectable certification for less (self-study). If not, University of Chicago's Project Management Essential Certificate.
     
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  6. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    $2,800. Which is at the same ballpark as MBA from University of the People (RA Candidate now). I guess someone finds it valuable, but does not seem like a good value to me.

    LinkedIn Learning has a "Develop your Project management Skills" learning path, and a free 30-days trial. Many individual courses are eligible for PDUs from NASBA and PMP.
     
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  7. TTS

    TTS New Member

    I assume your existing degree up to doctorate is accredited and recognized. If that is the case, why not do the popular Master Propio ENEB MBA? It is ~$200, and equivalent to an unaccredited masters in the USA. Sure beats any certification in my humble opinion for a general management track. It is a MBA issued by a real university.
     
  8. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I've gotten free access to LinkedIn Learning from two universities. I love it. You get a certificate of completion, not that it's on the same level as a certification, but it shows that one finished the course.

    I earned a free project management certification from a different organization. It doesn't have the same recognition as PMI, but free is free.

    But, I will say that project management is not the same as directing a department or entire company. You have people working under you managing projects, if your organization needs it. Managing a chaplaincy program is going to require broader knowledge.
     
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That's one evaluator's opinion. There are quite a few others, some of which are more flattering, e.g., equivalent to a regionally accredited postgraduate diploma.
     
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  10. TTS

    TTS New Member

    Which would be ideal for OldSage's requirement, don't you think so? I made that recommendation because (a) he wants to bolster his management credentials & (b) he did not want to break the bank.
    As long as he is fully aware what it is and isn't -- considering he was looking at certificates to begin with, an MBA from a university is superior. I don't think there's a better bargain at the moment for his needs.
     
  11. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    The OP already earned up to a Doctorate degree, another Master's does not do anything. A good certificate program with a reputation is better; otherwise, just take free courses for Coursera, FutureLearn, or EdX for knowledge and skills for FREE.
     
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  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I only hesitate because I don't have an informed opinion on the utility of various credentials for chaplaincy directorship, especially when I don't know what country OldSage is in.

    That said, at a price point below $200, I'm very glad the ENEB programs are in the DL toolbox, and when one of them does check all the right boxes for someone's needs, it's tough to beat.
     
  13. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    What is your doctorate in? A lot of master's and doctoral programs in theology/divinity/religious studies include courses in leadership and management.
     
  14. Vicki

    Vicki Member

  15. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    University of the People has non-credit certificate programs that are about $500.
    https://www.uopeople.edu/programs/certificate-programs/

    Christian Leadership Institute offers free college courses in business. It costs extra to be awarded credit for Christian Leaders College, which is in an applicant with ABHE. The CLI Christian Enterprise Certificate program includes several business courses. I think there's a small fee for the certificate once you complete the free courses.

    https://www.christianleadersinstitute.org/ministry-certificates/#enterprise

    Oxford Home Study offers a bunch of free courses that come with a certificate of completion.
    https://www.oxfordhomestudy.com/free-online-courses-with-certificates

    Management Strategy Institute offers free certification programs in Lean Six Sigma White Belt and Project Management Essentials.
    https://www.msicertified.com/free-certifications.html
     
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  16. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Agreed. If OP has a doctorate and years of experience, I’d suggest just picking up some free/semi-free managerial skill courses and perhaps volunteering on a few industry/community boards. That would be more valuable than adding a no/low name recognition management certificate. Also support the idea of picking up the PMP. With the CV that’s implied by the OPs statements, the only educational management certificate I’d be looking at, if one went that route, is something with name recognition. Either a well respected regional public university or one of the $5-20k management certificates from a national heavy hitter.
     
  17. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

  18. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    LOL. Why?
     
  19. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    That's assuming the OP has the experience for the PMP certification.
     
  20. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    If he has a doctorate and decades of professional experience, he shouldn’t have much of a challenge with.
     

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