Making Sense Of 'bologna Degrees'

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by jimnagrom, Nov 6, 2006.

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  1. jimnagrom

    jimnagrom New Member

  2. ebbwvale

    ebbwvale Member

    Interesting discussion. In Australia, the Bachelors is usually a three year degree. What they are not saying is that most students take dual degrees and get issued with a degree in laws and business, for example, after five years.

    I don't see much of the dual degrees in the U.S programs. Australia also has an Honours year where the student does a research process on a topic and is awarded a Bachelors(Honours).

    These students can get accepted into a Doctorate Program without the need for a Master's. These degrees are more compatible with the UK model than the US.

    It is difficult to compare values across national borders. Australian High Schools used to have a rather brutal final high school year that used to be considered roughly equivalent to first year subjects at university, but I don't know how that fares now.

    Med Students can still do straight med degrees and get awarded a Bachelor of Medicine, however, there is now a requirement in most university for a first degree before entry into med school.

    The Bachelor's degree for most, until recently, was the terminal degree. In a large percentage of cases, it probably still is.
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Yes, but:

    In UK AP's are very high and usually US High School diploma is not sufficient to enter University.

    US first year of a 4 year degree is what in UK may constitute for AP's.

    What is the level in other EU countries is US first year university / college equates to 12 grade there?

    I'm not clear on this.
     
  4. JoAnnP38

    JoAnnP38 Member

    In my first three quarters of Engineering, I had to take

    1) Statics
    2) Dynamics
    3) Thermodynamics
    4) Engineering Design I&II

    Are they saying that in Austrailia, EU, India, etc that high school students are taking these courses? I don't think so. This is where the EU HS13 == US Freshman assertion falls flat.
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Not all US universities are cookie cut, your program sounds more advanced than community colleges in my area and even some state universities in my area of residence.

    Sure there is a range, I don't know how the statistics were calculated or who did the study but it appears at the time it was done they simply compiled transcripts of US students abroad with additional data from USA.

    Is your example a majority or minority.

    I would like it to be a majority but I don't know if that's the reality.

    Sounds like you made good choice of school.

    Learner
     

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