I recently ran a search and looked at a thread a couple years back; it discussed some alleged Business PhD program at Drexel that could be had with but 9 months residency. I tried to find info on this on Drexel's LeBow SOM site, but was unsuccessful. Does anyone know about such a program at Drexel? Or for that matter, is there any other such program that's AACSB-accredited, in management or some other closely-business-related field, and requires a year or less residency, either spread over Summers or condensed into one intense year or short-term residencies? Thanks in advance for all your help; this forum has been invaluable to me!
Drexel's program requires you to petition, in case of emergency, after 9 months of residency. I was told, when I contacted them, it was almost unheard of to happen, most drop out or take a leave. In the US there is Case Western, who requires a visit every 4 weeks for the entire program. (not really distance in my mind) The good thing is that in Europe, there are several. Grenoble, Henley, Aston and I think a few others. For Grenoble, a week residency in Europe, a week residency in the States each year. AACSB to boot!!!
Han: Thanks for the info. The only issue with Case is that, while Weatherhead's a very solid program, the degree--as you imply--for all practical purposes requires either residency somewhere in Ohio or a neighboring state. Either that, or one whale of an expense account and an extraordinarily sympathetic employer. Also, the degree's a practitioner degree--a DM--unfortunately not what I'm looking for. I want to leave the door open to teach at the University level, and boy the academics resent a practitioner degree--it's almost an automatic trip to the circular file for your CV unless you have some impressive publishing--I don't. The European programs are very good, I think EBS and Manchester also offer DL doctorates, and Aston and Henley, which you mentioned, rank among the best business programs in the world--certainly top 100. Grenoble has the AACSB, as does Aston. I just wonder how these would be received in the U.S. Unless it's University of London or Oxbridge, it seems that many U.S. academics haven't heard of it and won't listen--very frustrating! Thanks for the info on Drexel--it sounds though as if one could not plan a 9 month residency program, that it's just not something they would allow. Thus far I've heard on this forum of Gonzaga University's Leadership Studies PhD that could be done with a business emphasis and can be completed over a series of Summers plus distance; that's the only one of that nature that's even within the same country mile of what I'm looking for. Does anyone know of anopther such program that can be completed with residencies plus distance? Summers only? One year plus online? Something business-realted? Thanks again!
I JUST had a meeting with my new Dean. He stated in his greeting to the faculty that he wants to start international programs and increase the DL presence (we already have one master's program completely online. Of course, I ran right over and scheduled a meeting. I was told by some of the faculty, I would rbing experience that no other full time faculty has, so it seems good, but I also heard there was over 100 applicants to the last position that was open. I have heard the publishing aspect is huge. Gonzaga's program is not a business degree, it is in their "Leadership" department, which is not in the business department, and does not fall into the AACSB accreditation. I confirmed that with both the school and AACSB directly. Their literature online is a bit misleading, so that is why I called. I actually checked every single school on the AACSB website last year (took about 2 weeks of working on it each night). You have run into the same ones as I. Hopefully there is a new program out there soon, but I think your search will come up empty for the US.
As far as I know--and obviously I haven't researched as thoroughly as you--you're right on all counts. Gonzaga is clearly not a business program. The reason I'm considering it in any manner is because I went over the list of dissertations and there were a few with titles that would've been quite at home in a business PhD or DBA program, particularly from a management perspective. Also, some of the classes seem right on point or close: e.g. Organizational Finance, Organizational Theory, Leadership and Economics, Human Resouce Development, Leadership and Law, Organizational Development, as well as all the quantitative and research methods courses that would overlap with the traditional Business Doctorate. Also, they allow 12 cr.hr. of self-directed study or transfer from other programs, so long as the coursework is RA, doctoral-level and makes sense in light of the program and goals of the student; I figured perhaps four courses in management at a traditional program would work. It appears that a particularly creative student who wrote the right sort of dissertation and did the right sort of business-oriented research might slap together something that veers close to a management PhD at a traditional business program--albeit with more of an ethics, leadership bent (which might not be bad all-in-all with the increased emphasis on ethics in management at U.S. B-schools in the wake of the Enron and Worldcom debacles. It sounds like you know a lot about this. Where do you teach? Or are you currently a grad student? Are you then currently involved with a B-school on some level? Thanks again for the info and advice, Han, I appreciate it!
Thanks for info! Any more programs out there? Any thoughts on my notions about Gonzaga--on target or just fooling myself?
Re: Re: Low-Residency PhD at Drexel? I didn't see the University of Durham on the AACSB website, what is their accreditation.
I am a current student in the Grenoble program for their DBA. I do teach in the California State University system, though part time. My Dean was very excited about the international and DL emphasis, so good on all accounts (though getting though the hiring committee will have some stigma attached.
Wow, Han, some of us have witnessed your progress from your MBA completion towards your DBA search through the last years Congratulations for your teaching position,and your DBA achievements. Your determination is truly impressive. Good luck with everyting. I am sure your example will inspire a few in this board.
Re: Re: Re: Low-Residency PhD at Drexel? I do not know what their accreditation is. But in the UK, Durham is very well regarded and ranks just below Oxbridge in prestige.
According to The Times Online, Durham is a heavy weight university. Here in Europe those accreditations are basically meaningless. I have never seen a single job advertisement requiring a Master's or a Bachelor's acredited by ACCSB (spelling?) or any other of those accrediting agencies. Times Online University Guide 2004 It is a little bit pricey though.
Accreditation in Europe There are three main "accreditations" in business that I am aware of: AACSB, EQUIS and AMBA. The AACSB accreditation is American-oriented, but a lot of international schools have chosen to apply for, and receive, this accreditation. In addition to the United States, there are AACSB-accredited schools in Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Costa Rica, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Israel, Ireland, Japan, South Korea, Mexico, Netherlands, Philippines, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Spain, Switzerland, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, and Venezuela. Sorry if I missed a country or two. So, AACSB is worldwide and quite respected. It sure cannot hurt to have this accreditation. I think there are 482 AACSB accredited schools in Business and 165 in Accounting (although some may be dual-accredited). EQUIS accreditation is granted by the European Foundation for Management Development, based in Brussels, and is more oriented towards the accreditation of European programs, however, the 73 EQUIS-accredited business schools are spread out across the globe with some in Canada, Australia, Mexico and China to name a few! I think EQUIS is more "known" than AACSB in Europe, but less known in the rest of the world. AMBA accreditation is granted by the Association of Masters in Business Administration, a UK based association. It accredits MBA programs worldwide (although more focused in the UK and rest of Europe) with accreditations in New Zealand, Italy, Chile, Australia, Ireland, France, Spain, and many more... DRUM ROLL PLEASE.... The Triple Crown.... There are some business schools that have all three accreditations and, in my opinion, these will eventually be the top business schools in the world. I think there are only 10-20 business schools worldwide that hold all three accreditations. The ones I know of are as follows: Grenoble Ecole de Management, France University of Strathclyde, Scotland Toulouse Business School, France HEC Montreal, Canada Henley Management College, England National University of Ireland Aston University, England Cranfield University, England Rotterdam School of Management, Netherlands There are a few more, but I can't recall right now.... My recommendation is to pursue a business degree from a Triple Crown School, that way you have ALL your bases covered!
Re: Accreditation in Europe Scoot - This is a great recap. The interesting part is the triple crown holders (3 of them on your list) have the only distance Doctorate programs with AACSB. Looks like they are on the leading edge!
