Louisiana Baptist University

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Oh yeah?


Take a look at the LBU "Featured Alumni" page.

Isn't this exacly where LBU wishes Jason to be? Dr G. is represented as one of LBUs distinguished featured alumni! Doesn't this strongly evidence LBUs quality and rigor?

 

Not only that, but another featured distinguished alumnus on that LBU page is Chuck Andrews. Bro Chuck is also spreading the rigorous LBU learning by his professorhip at Master's Divinity School (Indiana) where one "earns" a doc in Bible for completing 8 classes. That certainly is evidence of something alrighty.

I luv it!

 

http://www.lbu.edu/featuredalumni.htm


On this page, Missler, Jeffrey, Ice, and Kim are shown. Nothing about Andrews and nothing about Gastrich. Where are you looking?

 

Bill,

I did not see Dr. G. on the LBU "Featured Alumni" page, so I tried google.

Did you know Dr. G. was "California's Best Candidate For Governor"?

http://www.jasongastrich.com

Priceless:

1. The Tonight Show and NBC Snub and Mistreat Mr. Gastrich
http://jasongastrich.com/press39.htm

2. Jason Gastrich Concedes the Race to Arnold
http://jasongastrich.com/press48.htm

Dr. G's bigotry is sure to enhance his political career.

 

Hi Charles: This stuff is beneath belief. What can I say except "It's Greek to me"?

 

Unk and Charles

I'm sorry. I promise you that I saw those two items. I went to the site, connected with LBU, twice. Now when I go back, it looks nothing like I before saw it. There were before about 20 names and pictures.

To make sure I had not completely popped my cork, I did visit the Masters Divinity School site just now and did see Chuck Andrews there . But who knows, it too may disappear! I'm sorry I cannot replicate for you Jason's name on the LBU honor list but I saw it there under the title, "featured alumni." I promise!

 

Of course, the alumni of any school are beyond the control of the school. Jason's website is not LBU's website, it is his own. As far as MDS, they also have numerous RA Ph.D.'s who are listed as faculty. Therefore, if Chuck Andrews, by virtue of his BA and MA from LBU, and association with MDS presents somewhat of a negative image, then the RA doctorates associated with MDS present a positive image of the school. Right?

 

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OK , stupid me searched for LBU featured Alumni. Up pops "Louisiana Batist University jcsm.org I punch that and up pops a big title LBU. On it I punch "featured Alumni." There I see Jason pic. IE, he includes himself with ICE and co. Stupids Stupids me!

 

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But Russell, Jason is a doc student at LBU, not just an alumnus ,Right?

So you are saying that it is consistent with the LBU mission and rigor to grant grad religious degrees to someone who thinks Strong's concordance is an appropriate reference for a doctoral dissertation in Biblical Studies, Right?

Oh never mind, you've answered that already. I just remembered, you're the one who excuses all insignificant and trivial departures , as language requirements and accredited docs of the faculty from standard practice unless one is going to teach RA, Right?


Right!


As for Chuck at MDS, yep, he's guilty right the along with the RAs , Right!

 

According to Jason's website he is a doc student at LBU. My only observation was that Jason's website is not the official LBU website. I could build a website for each of my three (B,M,D) RA/ATS alma mater's, listing various alumni. The funny thing is, none of them would probably ever know about it.

 

Bill,

I never made it your way, sorry.

My registration with Trinity "expired." I am enrolled in Zulu's MTh program. Since I didn't have a dissertation Masters, this was required prerequisite to a doctoral program.

The problem with Strongs (beyond the text issues) is that it gives one the impression that a "word" (lexeme) has its own meaning. When one does word studies through Strongs, he/she is unable to consider syntax. An English study is also unable to determine actual phrase structure and subordination. These factors are much more important in determining meaning than the simple word itself.

Regarding issues of accreditation and professor qualifications (degrees from questionable institutions), I attended an unaccredited Christian school in the 70's. The two professors who taught OT languages and exegesis were graduates of UCLA. One in Hebrew and the other in ANE. One graduate went on to Westminster for his ThM. They had no professors qualified to critique his thesis. While at LABTS he had learned, not only Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, but Akkadian, Ugaritic, Phoenician and, I think, Syriac. A student at an unaccredited school, because of the quality of the faculty, was able to learn beyond what other accredited schools could have given him.

Jim

 

I was disappointed by Jason's attacks on the RC/Mormon and his rather stupifying editorial about his visit (makes Protestants look ridiculous). This stuff fits in the same category as those who consider Chick publications to be academic journals. I have met a few of these folks (luckily not many) on theologyreview.com. It indeed is rather bizarre from a scholarly point of view. They usually do not want to look objectively at a subject (whether they agree or disagree). Rather it ends up being filled with shallow one liners about the Pope being the anti Christ. Heck, we had one guy who was a fan of Binny Hinn criticizing the RC for being unscriptural and superstitious. Oy vey. Then we got another guy touting alleged stuff from Malachi Martin about satanic ceremonies and yada...yada.... in the Vatican (zeeesh). I have also enjoyed reading Mormon apologetic sites. I in no way agree with Mormon theology, but I enjoy reading and understanding their perspective. Much protestant Mormon critique can consist of back slapping, self congratulatory (aren't we glad we are not as stupid as the Mormons) dialogue. If they were faced by articulate refutation such as Jeff Lindsay's site, they would be in trouble.

As a side note, I enjoy hearing folks like Dr. Mitch Pacwa (EWTN) talk about why the Protestants are wrong about the number of books to include in Canon. How the Apostles used the version with the 'aprocrypha' in and the RC church being apostloic chose to follow them rather than a later Jewish council that removed them..etc. It allows you to see things from another perspective.

Maybe doctoral study will benefit Jason. I hope he gets more than just a degree.

By the way, to whoever posted the link about the concession to Schwartzenegger...thanks...that was funny. Was Jason attempting to be funny in the piece or was he serious??

North

 

Good comments

I would also add that Bishop Fulton J. Sheen's program "Life is Worth Living" is a very informative program. I think that Bishop Sheen was fascinating at being able to direct his television series to both Catholic and Protestant alike. He was respected by many people from various religious persuasion. It is because while Bishop Sheen was definately a loyal Roman Catholic, you never heard out of his mouth that Catholicism was the only right church. He wanted people to know that God cares for them and has a purpose for their life. The best part of this show was the fact that besides The Bible, Sheen also used information from Psychology, Philosophy and Literature. Thus, Sheen is a great example of spiritual teaching and admiration.

 

Couple things.

I think I found Holy Trinity Seminary. There is a small denomination called the Southern Episcopal Church. I used to have a pretty good handle on which small Anglican denominations were anti-deseg protests and which were anti-new BCP or anti-priestess protests; given the fissiparous and topheavy character of these groups (everybody pretty much gets to be a bishop or archbishop after a while) they require a lot of monitoring if a church-historical observer is to be au courant. My impression is that the SEC is midway between the two categories and is a relatively stable organization, though quite small. Its seminary is called Holy Trinity Seminary--the website is opaque, but it does state in big letters that its degrees are for ecclesiastical purposes only and not academic. I am not sure this is it, but it might be.

Also, a fairly thorough search for grads of LBU turned up many PhD's but almost no DMins. Maybe DMins would turn up under LBTS as a search term, but if not, it's a curious disproportion.

 

Question for Way

Way....Can you please email me?

[email protected]

 

Re: LBU

Are the Administrators Ruckmanites, or just give that appearance? What is their Doctrinal Position?

 

Re: Good comments

Absolutely! I love those old Sheen broadcasts. I believe he earned his Phd from Louvain (Sp??).

North