Liberty U. New Degree Options - DBA, MSIS, ect

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  1. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    I am missing lot of information in here about the program...more specifically about you.
    Your Name is : Curtis C
    Year of Birth: 1983
    Your Liberty University Stud ID start with an L

    I am still missing lot of your PII.

    Just kidding, anyway thanks for contacting Liberty University. I knew that the program Military/Vets tuition does apply because Business and Engineering at the money maker; therefore, no discounts there. Most of the schools know that if you want it you can afford it.

    Keep in mind that Liberty University's DBA is not professionally accredited. The business school is still under candidacy status at ACBSP. Opposing Wilmington University's DBA program, which the business school is IACEBE accredited, but not DBA itself.
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I'm not sure we've ever seen any evidence that programmatic accreditation from ACBSP or IACBE makes any practical difference in the utility of the degrees earned

    The only exception I can remember are international edge cases like SMC, which cannot get local institutional accreditation but can demonstrate external recognition of their legitimacy by having ACBSP-accredited programs.
     
  3. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Here's another exception: if you are pursuing a CPA license, then at least some states have policies that favor graduates of business programs accredited by ACBSP (also AACSB, but that's a separate issue). This is not to say that ACBSP or AACSB accreditation is strictly required, just that it can facilitate the licensing process -- if your degree lacks that accreditation, then you may need extra work experience or extra business/accounting coursework to compensate.

    I don't know how many states have such policies, but examples include New Jersey and Utah.
     
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  4. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Okay, that's definitely noteworthy.

    Anyone have anything that mentions IACBE?
     
  6. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    The National Association of Boards of Accountancy (NASBA) publishes a "model law", the Uniform Accountancy Act (UAA), to serve as a national standard for CPA regulation. The UAA has no legal standing by itself; the idea is that the 50 state accounting boards can use it as a template when developing their own state-specific laws and regulations, instead of reinventing the wheel each time.

    The current version of the UAA Model Rules is from 2011. It explicitly recognizes AACSB and ACBSP accreditation, but not IACBE accreditation. This may be related to the fact that IACBE did not achieve CHEA recognition until 2011.

    Since IACBE now has CHEA recognition, it seems possible that IACBE could be added in future versions of the UAA; in that case, the state accounting boards would probably start to recognize IACBE as well. But this has not happened as yet.
     
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  7. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    This point apparently applies to IACBE as well, because IACBE currently accredits several other schools in Switzerland.
     
  8. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Here is a current academic job posting that indirectly spells out the perceived business accreditation hierarchy:

    Required Qualification: ABD from an ACBSP or AACSB school

    Preferred Qualification: Completed doctorate from an AACSB school

    Not Even Mentioned: Anything from an IACBE school

    The job is at Millersville University of Pennsylvania, which is an ACBSP school.
     
  9. nmesproject

    nmesproject New Member

    Looks like AACSB Doctorate is the way to go... if you are interested being in Academia. !!
     
  10. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    It depends I think on what kind of position in academia you are interested in. I have never seen AACSB as a requirement for any community college position. It also doesn't seem to matter if you are going to adjunct for online schools. I've also noticed that most small four-year schools don't have the requirement in their job postings.

    How about an example? King University (which was known as King College until just a few months ago) is a small liberal arts school in Tennessee that has about 1,800 students. They are currently advertising for business faculty and there is no mention of AACSB on their job postings:

    King University: Faculty Positions

    Another interesting thing I noticed about King University is that several of their business faculty have earned their doctorates through Argosy and Capella:

    King University: School of Business

    AACSB accreditation is always preferable, if possible, but it doesn't necessarily mean you'll be shut out of the halls of academia if your doctorate doesn't have this designation. You may just have to settle for a smaller school or online adjuncting.
     
  11. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Millersville is currently ACBSP, but they are under pressure to get AACSB accreditation in the future. So they want to start hiring AACSB grads now, as you can tell from their job posting.

    On the other hand, King University currently has no specialized business accreditation at all; they are in the "candidacy" phase with ACBSP. AACSB is probably not a realistic goal for them at this point, and so they have no need to find faculty that will impress an AACSB accreditation committee.
     
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  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Agreed and moreover, they may not believe they can pay their faculty enough to attract such candidates.
     
  13. LGFlood

    LGFlood New Member

    LOL, ALL LU Student ID's begin with an L. :)

    To Curtis, I am also someone who has enjoyed the military discounts at LU for years. Just for clarification, the 250.00/CH rate applies to ALL undergraduate degrees, ALL Master's degrees, and only the Ed.S. or Ed.D. at the Doctoral level. Wish it weren't so, but it is. We've still gotten a sweet deal, though! Undergrad receives book vouchers, grad students get an almost 50% discount and all get the technology fee waiver.
     
  14. Flagship_Fleet

    Flagship_Fleet New Member

    This is very true! I received my undergrad in Business and MAML from Liberty using the military discounts and waivers and I agree that it is an absolute STEAL!
     
  15. curtisc83

    curtisc83 New Member

    I'm just 6 weeks away from getting my MAML!!! All dirt cheap :)
     
  16. joel66

    joel66 New Member

    The company I work for is paying for another AA, BS and Master's program. I am actually enrolled in the A.A. in Paralegal Studies program now and really enjoying it. When I was studying to obtain my bachelors with Excelsior, I was taking 15 to 18 units per semester, CLEP and DSST exams, in order to get my degree fast because the job market was very competitive. Now, I can focus more on learning without the stress of having to finish fast and look for another job. Even though I satisfied my GE courses, I decided to take ENGL100, 101 and 102 to keep building my writing skills, in addition to the paralegal courses. Once this is done I'm looking at a B.S. in Bus Mgmt Information Systems, possibly database cognate.
     
  17. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator Staff Member

    Liberty added some new programs at the graduate level this fall. From taking a quick look at them, it appears that most of the new programs are new concentrations. New online programs now available | Liberty University Online
     

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