Libertarian Veep candidate and ACMT doctorate

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  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

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  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Well, at least he's not running away from it. But he's not being candid. There's nothing relating to "freedom of choice" about taking a degree this way. This is a case of buying a fake degree. :rolleyes:

    What puzzles the writer (and me) is why someone with so many legitimate credentials would stoop to buying--and listing--a fake degree. I'm also puzzled as to why anyone in public life would do the same. :confused:
  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    The only reason I can think of is it fits into his libertarian philosophy. Libertarians despise any government intrusion, regulations, licensing requirements, etc. Government-sanctioned accreditation is anathema to libertarians.
  4. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    What bulls**t! (Campagna's, that is.) I bombed out of a doctorate program. So what? That doesn't confer some whiny self-pitying "right" to buy a fake one and say "woulda coulda shoulda." Paying a visa bill ain't doc studies methodology, either.

    The honorable thing would be to deep-six the less-than-wonderful credential. Campagna could improve by imitating the conduct of more than one poster on this board.
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    It's these kinds of shenanigans that continue to keep the LP from being taken seriously as a viable alternative to the two major parties.
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    But fraud isn't? (Not directed at Jimmy; he's not defending the guy's ethics.)

    Accreditation is private, not governmental. Accreditors are recognized by the USDoE, but that's not the same. Also, almost all schools, accredited or not, are licensed by their respective states. Religious schools might be exempt sometimes, but that exemption is a governmental process.

    I notice the article said he had other, legitimate degrees. You don't suppose he's abandoned them, do you? I wonder, as a holder of a JD, if he's also licensed as an attorney. That would be pretty governmental, too.

    Anyway you slice it, listing a Ph.D. from ACMT is telling a lie. That is no more a Ph.D. than one drawn on a piece of paper. Badly. With a crayon. A yellow crayon. Unsharpened. Blech. :mad:
  7. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    I am not puzzled at all. In the overwhelming majority of cases, these individuals believe that the fraudulent credential can be leveraged into some kind of gain, usually financial.

    This has nothing to do with the philosophy of libertarianism; the combination of a lack of ethics with low self-esteem attracts these individuals to the illogical concept of personal gain without any significant expenditure of effort.

    The only thing that puzzles me is why only one fake doctorate? :rolleyes:
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  8. maranto

    maranto New Member

    This, in part, is why the Libertarian party has gone nowhere. I could almost get behind some of their policies (at least on a local level), if only they would stop running the most extreme flakes that their party has to offer.

    As a “third party” they probably have the best (at least in the top two) infrastructure and grass roots system of any of the dozen or so 3rd parties currently out there, but folks who claim that paying income tax is voluntary, or that they don’t need a drivers license, or that they can simply buy a degree and have it be legitimate, just shoot themselves in the foot (I also have a hard time with the drug decriminalization thing… but well save that for another discussion). The rest of the country knows that these things aren’t true, so the Libertarian party just keeps on limping along with its self inflicted wounds.

    Given that the presidential elections are pre-ordained events in my state, I might have considered a protest vote for the LP… but not with these clowns. Perhaps, I’ll write in Cal Ripkin… at least we’d know that he will show up for work every day. I would have offered to write in John Bear, but I think that he is too smart to take the job. ;)

  9. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    I would buy an ACMT doctorate for myself if it wasn't so expensive. $249 is too much. The ULC doctorate is a much better deal at $35.

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