Kennedy Western University ???

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Veteran101, Jun 14, 2003.

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  1. DaveHayden

    DaveHayden New Member

    Plcscott

    The main reason students of questionable schools get treated poorly is that they often come charging on to Degreeinfo claiming their degrees are every bit as worthwhile and useful as RA degrees. Often when members try debate them they use faulty logic and avoid the real questions at all cost. Perhaps some one should create Degreemillinfo.com?

    :D :D :D
     
  2. plcscott

    plcscott New Member

    Dave:

    I'm sorry, but I have not seen any evidence of this on this thread. Not one person has said that their degree is equal in credential to an RA. I know I certainly have not. If anyone reads this thread, and comes up with that conclusion then their logic is faulty. I do not know what has happened here in the past, but some of the jabs at myself, and some others here were not deserved.

    Regards,

    Scott
     
  3. c.novick

    c.novick New Member

    To be fair:

    I don't think at any time plcscott directly claimed his KW degree was the same or better than any RA degree.

    I believe he found fault with KW 's practices.

    We should all keep that in mind.

    Peace...
     
  4. plcscott

    plcscott New Member

    Thanks!

    It is nice to know someone has actually bothered to read this thread before spouting. I have never directly or indirectly claimed the above.

    Hey Michael

    Peeeaaace back to ya! :cool:
     
  5. kf5k

    kf5k member

    I have never said that K-W is a good school-fair school-average school. I have said that K-W is better than Trinity or Hamilton, and I intend to continue saying that. It operates under Wyoming law, and that is better than operating under no requirements at all. I've been quoted as saying K-W is the same as accredited, a good school, and being a apologist for them. I have never seen one single quote from anyone saying that K-W is one of the better approved schools. People usually say it is legal, and offers some study. The debate should be over the level they operate at, and not over the made up statements people attribute to others. Dave Hayden you've made the statement that we've said that K-W is every bit as worthwhile and useful as an accredited school. Please go to any of my posts, RJT or Plcscott included, and bring these statements here and show them. You made the statement now back it up with proof.
     
  6. aa4nu

    aa4nu Member

    James,

    Just like the proof YOU provided WEEKS ago
    when I directly asked you about what are
    the exact academic degrees you hold there?

    Aha ... I thought so ... NADA reply from you.

    And why is that? <ponder, ponder, ponder>

    Billy

    AA/BA - TESC
    MBA ITM - TUI
    Ph.D. CBA student - TUI
     
  7. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Hopefully they're counting less money because we've convinced some potential students to go with a RA school.


    Bruce
     
  8. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member

    ?:??]Originally posted by plcscott [/i]


    You have to wonder why a site with 4000 has hundreds of post from the same people, and few from the rest. Any disagreement, or suggestion that is not in line with a select few, and the attack dogs are out. Wonder why the new people do not hang around.
    [/QUOTE]


    No, I don't wonder about it at all. That is par for the course with most boards of this type. There is always a much, much larger number of folks that join, read a few posts, and move on. The active membership of these types of boards is really quite small (comparatively).

    As for K-W, most days it never crosses my mind. Sure it's an extremely poor choice. Sure they can't even admit students from the state in which they operate, but there are so many others out there. I would guess that K-W gets so much attention because they are so much more visible than so many of the others. Their ads are all over the Internet.

    As for K-W students, I guess that they are given a hard time because it is difficult for most of us to believe that those students could actually believe, given the amount of work required, that they are earning a bachelor's degree. I suppose if you knew absolutely nothing about higher education you could probably convince yourself that it was the equivalent of a real college education.


    Tom Nixon
     
  9. kf5k

    kf5k member


    Chadwick University- B.S.- M.B.A.

    Show me the posts I requested. Where are they?
     
  10. plcscott

    plcscott New Member

    As for K-W students, I guess that they are given a hard time because it is difficult for most of us to believe that those students could actually believe, given the amount of work required, that they are earning a bachelor's degree. I suppose if you knew absolutely nothing about higher education you could probably convince yourself that it was the equivalent of a real college education.


    Tom Nixon [/B][/QUOTE]

    Yes, I agree. However, I had an RA associates, and many credits towards a BS. Along with 15 years experience in my field, and Certificates as long as my arm. I still thought 6 courses was light, but the admissions person really talked up my credentials, and experience. I thought cool, 6 courses and a final project, why argue. It was later that I learned that practically everyone takes 5 to 7 courses. As far as the KW students, I guess it depends on the individual as to whether they would be qualified for what you see as a real college education. I probably could have transfered credits, and got a degree at COSC, if I had known about it, and taken a few clep courses. I do not personally think a general studies degree would serve me any better than a KW degree unless I am going to go for a masters, or get a government job that has to be accredited or requires a PE license. If a PE comes into play no distance degree is ABET, so there you go.

    This may matter a ton to the liberal arts world, or to the academic world. I do not think that any of these degrees are looked upon with utility in the engineering world though.
     
  11. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member


    Maybe you should. Given what you have exhibited here, I would think that it would be relatively easy for you to do so. The big 3 do offer different majors or concentrations. Certainly any major and/or degree from TESC, COSC, or Excelsior is going to be better for you than what you got from K-W. It's never to late to start anew.



    Tom Nixon
     

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