Kennedy Western transfers?

I know I am going to take a lashing for this thread.

I have been enrolled in KWU since 2000, and I am getting close to finishing my degree (BSEE). I have recently found out through this site, and KWU's pub that KWU isn't exactly what was sold to me.

I do agree with most of what I have read here, but the classes I have had have not been easy. I did transfer my credits from a local Comm. College to KWU.

Is there any RA schools which except KWU degree's for entrance into a MS program? Or Any RA schools which accept KWU credits?

Take it easy on me because I already feel like I wasted some time and money. I really think that I am qualified, and capable to enter a MS program. If I could enter a MS in education, or technology that would be fine I just don't want the KWU to be a waste.

Thanks in advance,

Scott

 

Hi Scott

Welcome to degreeinfo.

Don't be too hard on yourself. Sometimes life is brutal and you have to roll with the punches. You are certainly not the first to be taken in by K-W's scam. You made a choice. You learned quite a bit even if you didn't receive what you had paid for.

On to the rolling. No RA school will accept a K-W degree for enrollment into a graduate program or as transfer credit. Some will evaluate and accept the LEARNING for credit. The easiest route would be Big Three, Charter Oak, Excelsior, and Thomas Edison. Others may also accept it but I believe you will find most schools much less flexible. One of the posters here, Randell1234, recently completed a degree by taking the learning he had gained from CCU and using CLEP/DANTES tests to gain credit.

http://www.degreeinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6837&highlight=california+coast

http://www.geocities.com/ba_in_4_weeks/mainmenu.html

In any event good luck and again welcome to degreeinfo.

 

Did u try any DETC accredited school?

 

Scott: Is there any RA schools which except KWU degree's for entrance into a MS program? Or Any RA schools which accept KWU credits?

John: I don't think so. My fairly large survey of college registrars and admissions officers two years ago (included both RA and DETC) found fewer than 1% that would even consider such.

During my three involvements with unaccredited schools, we had a fair number of acceptances, always on a case-by-case basis, and often requiring a fair amount of communication between schools. But we kept a record of these, and could provide that to students and potential students ("The University of Nebraska accepted one Greenwich history M.A. for admission to a Ph.D program, on a case-by-case basis. You might wish to ask them." That sort of thing.

If K-WU is aware of any such acceptances among their many thousands of graduates, one would think they would proudly share this information with people in your situation. Have you asked?

Dave Hayden's advice is excellent. To that, I would add that there are excellent British universities that do not require a Bachelor's for admission to a Master's. Of the two I was involved with in the 90s, one (Heriot-Watt) had no Bachelor's requirement, and the other (U of Leicester) had an 8-month diploma program for MS applicants without a Bachelor's.

You might want to have a look at the Master's portion of Lawrie Miller's BA in 4 Weeks site: http://geocities.com/BA_in_4_Weeks

Best wishes in your quest, and thanks for your candor in reporting on K-WU.

 

Did you look at Charles Sturt University? Look at the information at http://www.itmasters.com.au/index.htm they offer a Master of Networking and System Administration (don't know if it would appeal to you) without an undergraduate degree.

"Applicants may be considered for admission without an undergraduate degree if they have at least four years experience in the IT industry, including experience at a senior level such as network or system administrator."

good luck

 

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I appreciate the replies about some suggested universities. I am not interested in any schools which are outside the US, or any schools which are like K-WU, but are accredited by something other than a RA. I am also not interested in a liberal arts degree.

I am an electrical contractor, and I am self employed. I did not attend K-WU to move up at a company. I am also not ashamed of my attending K-WU. I know that K-WU does not have favor on this site, and I understand the reasoning. I really do! However, I think if K-WU could ever become approved, and accredited they would have a very good niche in the market of adult education.

Where else can someone with a technical education, and experience study any engineering? At least K-WU lets you do so, and gives you a diploma for your work. If K-WU is not accepted in the academic world then that is bad for me.

Do I feel like I wasted almost 3 years, and 5K? Probably, but show me an alternative. I work more hours in a week than most people sleep. I do not have the time to go a traditional route. What good would a liberal arts degree do in my field?

My plans are to maybe sell my business in maybe 5 years, and start teaching in a high school or tech. school to give back some of the what I have learned in the real world. If there is no way to get a RA degree in my field then I am not going to waste my time anymore.

 

Scott, did you look at the BSAST degrees at Thomas Edison?

 

Interesting

Thanks Bill this looks interesting!

 

Hello, If you are considering teaching I would check with your state education office and see the criteria for a teaching certificate or if there is an opportunity to do alternate route work like my home state NJ. If you decide to spin you KW work into a TESC degree I will be glad to give you any suggestions. I believe you will find a degree to back up teaching has to be from a RA school. I hope you have also viewed Lawrie Millers site for suggestions. Have a good evening. Hille

 

Too bad you had to find out the hard way Scott; ditto for me. As has been mentioned, KW credits aren't transferable for the most part; kinnda like arcade tokens.

You may be able to gain some recognition via a Prior Learning Assessment and that’s about it. Me, I’m doing it fast, but right this time around. I’m going to finish my R/A undergrad via a combination of D/L, CLEP, PLA and some hard work. I figure 18-24 months.

Why go through the effort? I’ve come to the grand realization that there is no easy way. Smarter, faster ways yes, but more often than not, circumventing a legitimate Bachelor degree will almost always come back to haunt you; some place, some time.

However sir, mine is just the humble opinion of a fellow KW scam victim.


Cheers...Randy

 

You CAN study engineering.....

plcscott -

Scott, it is possible to study engineering someplace other than Kennedy-Western. A lot of RA schools offer ABET engineering courses by distance learning, you just have to search for them a little bit.

Please see the thread about "Correspondence Engineering Courses" at http://www.degreeinfo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5887 .

Personally, I am going for a Technology Bachelors at Charter Oak State College first (109 credits so far), and then I am going to get my Masters Degree in Mechanical Engineering from one of the many RA Universities that offer them by distance ed.

TaneaG

 

Scott: "Kennedy-Western credits aren't transferable for the most part; kinnda like arcade tokens."

John: You mean they can't be used for the Ski-Ball game at Chucky Cheese either? What a bummer.

 

PLCScott,

Charter Oak State College has a concentration in their BSGS degree which is called "Engineering Studies". I have looked at the curriculum and it is pretty similar to an engineering degree (it is not an engineering TECHNOLOGY degree). If you had a KWU degree in Electrical Engineering, chances are you can portfolio alot of the engineering course work require (they do not accept KWU credits, however, they will accept a portfolio based on the knowledge you have gained [from KWU].).

TaneaG,

Have you looked at other schools in regards to your BSGS Technology Studies. Have you emailed school in regards to admissions to MS's in engineering? Would you meet the requirements? I'm trying to see if anyone has had success in enrolling into an ME/MSEE with an engineering technology undergrad degree.

Best Regards,
Bill