IUFS makes changes

I never called them a mill.

 

Deliberately obtuse? Is his point not clearly that a school can improve its standing?

 

All I can tell is a group of people who have problem to understand what I say.

Please point in this post to a location were I stated that IUFS is legit.
What I was saying is that they are making changes.
I mentioned another site were clearly it's showing what they are and what they are not.

Retraining school that can host up to 37 students licensed by local atrocities on behalf Federal Ministry of Education.
Their supplement as it shown elsewhere is not providing them with any authority to award degrees.

So what are you all talking about IUFS lover, I'm reporting here and you jump to atack first Gregg who has an agenda him self now it really clear.

As far as accusation on Golin I don't post anywhere under the name Learner but here so if some one just like in case of ODA Contreras
is posting things about Golin it's not me.

I'm trying to report that IUFS is making changes that’s all.
Yes I asked the opinion if this time its legit.

Stop putting words that I didn't say.

My interest in changes of other organizations, I don't have to be mill lover to have interest and follow things and developments.

But I am very happy to see how objective are some of persons who atack my opinion.

That tells me allot about their agenda and to the readers as well.

 

It's sounds to me and others that you are completely ignorant when it comes to Russia and status of IUFS.

Please point me to a location were I posted that they are accredited.

Good luck you will never find it.
what they have is a License from Local Government of St. Petersburg that is allowing them to provide retraining and supplemental education on University Level.

Thats all they are not a degree provider.
For that they need to earn an accreditation by Russian MOE.

I state facts but you have very little bait so once you smell blood
you jump like a hungry dog.

Maybe first try to learn something about the subject you are trying to reply.
But can see that you are trying to please the others.

So keep you BS to your self.

 

I was posting in the group and tried to not get to this level.

But Gregg's rediculus acusations that are supported by others give me no choice but let him taste from his own medicine.

I will try to controll this.

But this is how it feels when some one is acusing me of things that are 100 incorrect.

 

Suplement to iUFS license

It's stated there that this institution is only licensed to re-train and re-educate (in order to provide better level of knowledge) only - no new diplomas or qualifications issued (column 6 is blank). The level of the teaching (column 4) - supplemental to the college level.

It's also stated there that the maximum amount of students is limited to 37 students. ( Not by DL in person on their B&M facility )

This is objective reporting.

Now lets see what it will bring on me.
Who is next to atack me on posting this info.

The license and suplement makes them to school.

They made this info avalble fo others to know.


Noting more.

Learner

 

@ Lerner

Perhaps they´re a school (a really bad one). But they try to confuse potential students to get their money, that´s clear. Thatswhy they have those questionable affiliations.

You put the terms "good" and "more legitimate" together with IUFS. That´s the big problem here!

 

I don´t have any problems with Russia and their Universities nor of their Higher Education System. I know that there are really good Universities.
But when it comes to dubious mills, I don´t understand why a person like you tries to defend them.

As you know I state here some interesting facts too. These facts show what a "good" instition IUFS must be.

I´ve learned.

 

I agree that all the lies make them look really bad.

I was simply reporting and asking a question.
Someone else blow it out of proportions.

They have long way to legitimacy.

I agree that the energy and time I spent on this was not wort it.
I didn't expect this trand to get the way it did.

i guess it's a good think that people here hate entities such as IUFS.

What I see is that some are bored and when they in their mind think that new mill shill is here they finally get in to some action.

They got it completely wrong specially about me.

 

Dear Le(a)rner,

this is the best Distance learning discussion board in my eyes, also because the users in this forum are experienced, very critical and don´t guess, that all is fully right, if anyone posts here something.
I can´t be objective if I know that one tries to tell “good news” about an institution like IUFS. So I don´t see the need then to try to find out things, that all users already know.

When we talk about distance learning institutions, we should think of and safe the true thoughts of degreeinfo: to show what good schools are and what good distance learning education is, to show the practice of bad and fake “schools” and to give the advice to avoid diploma mills like this one.

But if you understand this now, it´s a good sign, of course.
So have a nice day and cheers…

 

If they "got it wrong" about you, then retract your absurd lie about DesElms being involved with this ridiculous outfit.

 

Really? Why?

Brighton Beach is a famous "Russian" neighborhood.

 

A real school doesn't use all of these ruses to try to demonstrate its legitimacy; it lets its actions do the talking.

Does IUFS issue degrees that will be accepted generally as comparable to those issued by accredited schools (or the Russian equivalents)? Of course not.

Does IUFS use spurious methods for "proving itself"? Of course it does.

Is this all B.S.? How could anyone conclude otherwise?

This is just a scam to allow purchasers and operators to engage in a conspiratorial ruse to fool others (like employers). Standard mill stuff.

 

Brighton Beach Memoirs - Neil Simon.

Only in the borough of Queens do people typically use their neighborhood in their address. In the other Boroughs they use New York (Manhattan), Brooklyn, Bronx or Staten Island in their address.

My last NYC address ended with, Ozone Park, NY.

 

Yes, I agree with Dr. Rich Douglas.

I was thinking that maybe it is a beginning and maybe more changes such as removal of all the lies and absurd info.

I'm simply pointing to what they are and can and can not do.

But some action seeking sharks, sorry cant find a better word.
Willing to attack anything that in their wild imagination representative or a shill.

Far from objectivity - real cannibalism, false accusations.

AJ

Anyway if this is causing to match trouble then I have no issue if moderator deleted and removed the whole tread.

I have no doubt that Gregg is not involved with IUFS but he does make false accusations or assumptions about me.

If I see more positive changes in IUFS status I have no problem not bringing them here unless it is of value and in my opinion will be a major change.

Learner

 

Learner

I believe what your saying except that you go too far. Many shills do exactly what you describe. Some seek the illegitimate over and over again. Eventually they end up with the instant degree they seek with an unfortunate odor. One merely has to look at the newly minted "Dr" Robert Ray Hill "Educational Consultant" (read salesman) to see this in action. What a joke!

 

I am thinking that the "changes" are just their excuse for being crappy NOW. "Yes, we are bad, but we are making CHANGES".
Seriously, why would a group of con men suddenly seek "legitimacy"? APPEARANCE of legitimacy - yes. And "making changes" excuse works just fine for their purposes.

 

Yes. It seems like SRU all over again. Encourage a few people with thoughts of legitmacy to rake in even more cash from the gullible and uninformed.

 

I have no doubt that Lerner is not involved with the allegations of Michael Jackson's molestations but he does make false accusations or assumptions about many.

 

dezinformatsiya rediviva

That's not a retraction. That's a "He picked on me so I decided to lie about him in a vital area of this board's concern. Now that I got caught I'll whinge some more." Lerner does not seem to understand the unacceptability of his behaviour. When someone isn't nice to you that does not excuse lying and saying that the not-nice-person is involved with a mill.

Just to make this clear for any newbies:

Gregg DesElms is an eminently honourable poster with absolutely no involvement in IUFS or any other less-than-wonderful outfit.