Israel Attacks Syria

By most definitions all these acts are considered a genocide. The key distinction the UN makes is that distinguishes a genocide from other crimes is the intent to destroy the targeted group.
https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

I was trying to differentiate targeted acts of genocide vs a systemic genocide and believe I added to the confusion. They are all acts of genocide.

Lerner’s paper claiming there is no genocide in Gaza uses a number to define what is and what is not a genocide. Once we start trying to model and quantify what is or is not an acceptable number of innocent people who can be killed before we say we committed human rights abuses, then we have lost the forest for the trees.

 

I am outraged by it. The difference between this and with Israel is about the US involvement in it.

Our taxpayer dollars, meaning that of the US citizens, are being used to fund the continuation of this war. Israel is also committing these attacks with american made weapons and arms.
That is why there was a push for a BDS movement, which you were outspoken against as well. This is why I think you know this is the real reason, but like many people defending this atrocity they start pointing around to other human rights abuses and ask why we dont condemn those as well.

 

Yes, I have explained this exact thing to Lerner probably a half dozen times yet he still keeps trying to claim that I must not really care about genocide because they killed more people here and more people there and what about people being killed over there, what about this and what about that and blah blah blah blah.

 

More deflections, as expected.
Only singling out Israel.

 

Hamas talking points.

We all can voice our critique related to spending.
As to atrocities, war brings suffering.
Jihadists are the ones commmiting atrocities.
US involvement is preventing Jihadists from commiting grave atrocities.
To bad you don't see this.

 

Actually your hypocrisy is amusing, especially since you are the only one here actively deflecting. "Don't pay attention to the genocide going on in Gaza. You should instead be more concerned about blah blah blah blah."

 

I see grave atrocities happening in Gaza perpetuated by American money and bombs.

 

I know you think so, but in my opinion there are not atrocities, only what the war brings and some anti Israel propoganda that yiu are exposed a war that was forced on Israel and what you being told is part of it.

 

US is supporting democracies in the world from dictatorships or other opressing regimes.
Be it Taiwan from China.
Ukraine from Russia
Israel from Jihadists.
etc.

 

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
- George Orwell, 1984.

 

That comparison simply doesn’t apply here. Hamas and other jihadist groups are not freedom fighters or moral actors—they are terrorist organizations driven by hatred and a genocidal agenda.
Trying to equate them with legitimate national defense or resistance movements is not just inaccurate—it’s morally wrong.
The example you're using is irrelevant to the reality of what Israel is facing.

 

HAHAHAHA You believe everything that Netanyahu wants you to believe was his point.

 

The point is that I belive that IDF is one of the most moral armies in the world
No mater who is Israel's PM.

I'm aware of many who prefer the Jihadi terrorist propogansa.
So many people with large heart but little brain.

 

Now back to genocide in Syria.
Is the current leader the next Bin Laden?
Will the West and Saudis help El Qaida and ISIS finally get terrorist state?
Their goal is to kill all Israelis and the rest of infidels.

 

Well currently there is a ceasefire and Bedouins have withdrawn from Druze cities. All good news on that front as they work through it diplomatically. Maybe Israel can take a lesson from this and work on their own ceasefire negotiations.

The IDF just killed 85 Palestinian aid seekers. Most moral military, huh?
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-07-20-2025-2b494af89d710793bc6933f5ae437566

 

We can discuss Gaza in a seperate tread, you again posted information from - Zaher al-Waheidi, head of the Hamas controlled Health Ministry’s department, who told The Associated Press inflated #s.
Israel’s military said soldiers shot at a gathering of thousands of Palestinians in northern Gaza who posed a threat, ( IDF shoots first in the air, but if unidentified crowd unrully aproaches the soders tey can open fire") and it was aware of some casualties. But it said the numbers reported by officials in Gaza were far higher than its initial investigation found. It accused Hamas militants of creating chaos.

I read different more reliable info, we can review on another tread, This one is about Syria,

Diplomacy buys time, that's all it does to the terrorists. No diplomacy will help with these people.
They massacred 600 to 1000 people, in few days, what diplomacy?
Anyone who has a death wish can foolishly trust these terrorists.

What does Al-Julani plan?
To establish an Islamic empire, and to advance to Israel:


"Due to Al-Julani jihadist background and dangerous aspirations, the Orientalist called for completely cease the talks with Al-Ghulani: “We must first stop every negotiation and every mediation with this man, with this regime, is one. There is no negotiation, no contact with him.”

Instead of direct military involvement, the Orientalist proposed helping the Druze community by supplying weapons and defense, while transferring weapons that were confiscated from the Hezbollah terrorist organization to the Druze: “What are we doing with this weapon? Let's let the Druze."

Dr. Eddie Cohen warns: Al-Julani is striving to establish an Islamic empire - a way of ethnic cleansing of minorities and later "to advance towards the Golan and Israel" • The researcher calls for an end to any contact with the Syrian regime, to arm the Druze with weapons confiscated from Hezbollah and provide them with defense systems: "Give them an Iron Dome.
Dr. Edi Cohen is a researcher at the Center for Greater Strategy for Israel, he tweeted on Monday to Tal Meir the goal of the Al-Julani regime through the diplomatic and Western suit that she wore: “He wants to establish an Islamic empire. And paves the way there by ethnic cleansing of all minorities. In a few months, years, he will establish an Islamic empire and advance towards Israel, towards the Golan.”

Cohen rejected any attempt to present the forces on the ground as separate or moderate elements. He directly ties the Syrian army with Bedouins who bullied Druze: “Al-Julani helps the Bedouins. There is no difference between the Bedouins and the Giulani regime, which will be clear and when they say ‘the Syrian police’ or ‘Syrian army’, these are ISIS murderers. You can’t make an agreement with this man" there is no need to send IDF soldiers or the occupation of territories, but rather to strengthen the Druze forces so that they can defend themselves.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-reportedly-delivers-medical-aid-to-syrias-sweida-as-calm-appears-to-return/

Israel delivers medical aid to Syria’s Sweida as ceasefire appears to stick.
Public broadcaster reports that Israel coordinated delivery to the Druze-majority province with the US; monitor says death toll in sectarian clashes has surpassed 1,100.

“Our brotherhood with the Druze community is well known, but beyond that, we are committed to a ‘covenant of life.’ We cannot stand idly by when members of the community — inside or outside Israel — are in danger,” Health Minister Uriel Buso said of the decision.

 

I have to assume that Lerner has never read 1984 by George Orwell. His post didn't make any sense to me. I was stuck on that and just found his post amusing trying to figure out what he thought 1984 meant.