International School of Management DBA/Ph.D.

Has anyone heard of this school, or have an opinon about it? Their DBA and Ph.D. programs are AACSB accredited, and they offer an e-learning option for both programs?

 

I forgot the link, here it is: http://www.ism.edu/

 

They are accredited by bogus World WAUC.

This accreditiation is more than a reason not to join this program.

The AACSB accreditation is a plus but this school is not on the level of US NA or RA school.

Why use bogus accreditor?

It's bit stain on their reputation.

Learner

 

Lerner, thanks for your comments, but I don't understand them. I see that WASC http://www.wascweb.org/ is one of 6 accrediting agencies in USA. ANd the school is part of AACSB, which is the gold standard. And in the USA they are affiliated with St. John's Univ, a school with the utmost standards.

Would you pls be more precise in why a school with AACSB credentials would not be on par with NA and RA schools? Thanksl.

 

Sorry. I see you wrote WAUC, not WASC. But I still would think that AACSB would override that.

 

AACSB is reputable organization.
They have high level of recognition in business community.

Their accreditation is comparble some what to Professional Accreditation in US.

US PA are recognized by DoE and/or CHEA.
Not the case for AACSB.

The issue is that most of professional accreditors in US will not accredit a program in a school with unrecognized accreditation.

Usually the school has to be RA in order to get PA accreditation.

AACSB is recognized by witch ministry of education?

Is it recognized by CHEA?

This is alarming to me that they would accredit a school that is WAUC accredited.
And if AACSB accreditiation was sufucient why have WAUC one?

AACSB is private body without DOE or equivalent recognition

I'm not an expert on this so this is an opinion.

If AACSB has DoE or equivalent recognition please let me know, I may be in error, but I don't know for sure.

Learner

 

In USDoE web.

American Assembly of Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB)

http://www.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ous/international/usnei/us/edlite-accred-recog_associations.html

 

This is a deferent AACSB

http://www.aacsb.edu/

Association to Advance Colleges Schools of Business - International

The US DoE recognized is

American Association of Colleges Schools of Business.

Learner

 

This is a deferent AACSB

http://www.aacsb.edu/

Association to Advance Colleges Schools of Business - International

The US DoE recognized is

American Association of Colleges Schools of Business.

Learner



It is the same agency. They changed their name a few years ago in order to be more of an "International" accrediting agency and not just "American".

 

They are not AACSB accredited. They are only a member of AACSB, which anyone can do.

 

ISM is a "member" of AACSB. I didn't know there was a difference between just a "member" and an "accreditited member," (I would think all members would be accreditited) but for AACSB, I guess there is.


From AACSB: http://www.aacsb.edu/accreditation/accreditedmembers.asp

"AACSB International membership does not confer AACSB accreditation and should not be interpreted as achieving accreditation."

If you look at the ISM home page, you will notice that the word "Member" is faintly above the AACSB symbol.

This link can also give you a better idea of the difference:
http://www.aacsb.edu/members/educational.asp




Oh, also, I know there was a discussion on another thread recently (too lazy to find it right now) about AACSB not accrediting doctoral programs. Apparently they do:

http://www.aacsb.edu/members/why.asp

"AACSB International - The Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business is the professional association for college and university management education and the premier accrediting agency for bachelor’s, master’s, and doctoral degree programs in business administration and accounting."

 

The tread began with" Has anyone heard of this school, or have an opinon about it? Their DBA and Ph.D. programs are AACSB accredited, and they offer an e-learning option for both programs?"


SO they are not AACSB accredited.

Thanks for clarification

 

Attention WAUC Accredited School Graduates

Attention WAUC Accredited School Graduates

Effective immediately, all graduates of WAUC schools are requested to purchase a seal to go on their diploma guaranteeing accreditation. In addition, a permanent record will be kept in the WAUC offices relative to the student's graduation. This is a guarantee to students that they can always trace their diploma through the WAUC. A form is below to purchase the seal. Fee is $50.00 (USD) for USA students and $65.00 (USD) for foreign students.

Please make checks payable to WAUC and mail to:

World Association of Universities and Colleges

Please send us your money and we will send you in return a worthless sticker to attached to your expansive worthless piece of paper.

 

Can a university apply for AACSB, ACBSP, IACBE membership or accreditation if it is accredited by WAUC http://www.waucglobalaccreditation.org/ ??

 

Sure. We've seen two cases where schools have continued their WAUC accreditation right up until they were accredited by DETC. If the organizations you list don't use that as a criterion, I guess it will work.

Please note that membership and accreditation are two entirely different things. Anyone can become a member of those organizations by paying a fee.

 

Greetings, my name is Justin Pace and I am the Student Services Coordinator at the International School of Management. After reading this thread, I would like to provide some additional information regarding ISM.

The International School of Management awards the following degrees: Master of Business Administration, Executive Master of Business Administration, Doctorate of Business Administration, and Doctor of Philosophy. The International School of Management operates as an “Association de Formation” in France. The ISM is also fully accredited by the Accreditation Council for Business Schools & Programs (ACBSP) which is, itself recognized by the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) in the US; and by the European Association for Quality Assurance in Higher Education (ENQA). This information is available on our website International School of Management | International Management Programs under the section “About ISM”, in the subsection, “ISM Overview”, “Accreditation”.

It is important to note the distinctions between AACSB and ACBSP accreditations. AACSB accreditation is traditionally reserved for very large, research-based universities while ACBSP accreditation focuses on smaller schools that place great importance on practical learning that can be immediately applied to the workplace. We, at ISM, feel that ACBSP is the most appropriate accreditation for our institution.

If you have any questions regarding ISM’s accreditation or programs offered, please do not hesitate to contact an Admissions Representative at [email protected].

Best regards,

Justin Pace
Student Services Coordinator
[email protected]

 

I take issue with that statement. ACBSP is a programmatic accreditor, not an institutional one. ACBSP accredits degree programs, not entire schools. Every degree program at ISM may be accredited by ACBSP, as you say, but they do not accredit the school itself. For ACBSP to accredit its programs, a non-US school must already have what ACBSP deems as "sufficient degree-granting permission in its own country."

I'd like to know the exact nature and source - and possibly see some evidence of the school's degree-granting permission, please.

Johann

 

In fact, the Chancellor of ISM recently served a one-year term as the President of ACBSP. He was apparently the first ACBSP President from a non-US school.

I don't know much about degree-granting authority in France. But it sure looks like ACBSP accepts ISM as completely legit.

 

Have the same opinion as well …